Great article, covering many facets!
I think it deserves its own thread:
I think it deserves its own thread:
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Article, “Internal Proofs of Bible Authenticity”
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GoodAttention
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Still no evidence for a historical Jesus, and the evidence about the Jews and Israel isn’t ground breaking.
No sources given either.
Still, the author seems to have an open mind about reviewing any reinterpretation of the scriptures which is positive.
No sources given either.
Still, the author seems to have an open mind about reviewing any reinterpretation of the scriptures which is positive.
Tomef
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The problems start in the first sentence - 'Its highly detailed records of family lines’. Genealogies in the bible are one of the most problematic parts of the text, if you want to prove anything.
And 'because no one would go into such minute detail if they were simply creating a forged document.’ Firstly, why not? This is a completely random assertion. People do go into great detail to create forgeries. More importantly, though, a document from the ancient world not being accurate doesn’t make it a forgery. As you can confirm from a great many sources, standards of historical record-keeping were not the same then as they are now. In many cases there is no intention to be accurate, a case in point being the genealogies. These were not compiled for accuracy, but to show the connections between key people, to establish a sense of continuity, things like that.
Overall, it skips over too many controversies and details. It’s hardly surprising that cities that still exist today are mentioned, I mean, why wouldn’t they be? That doesn’t mean their origin stories are accurate. This is more wishful thinking than proof.
I'm not much of a fan of the term "proof," but let's set that aside.
If you truly find it to be a great and deserving site, it might help if you could highlight one or two of the proofs you found most significant and/or valuable. Thanks.
Audie
Veteran Member
Audie
Veteran Member
the Koran is even more proved and true!
Internal AND external proof after proof
Tomef
Well-Known Member
Gold specs, disappearing tablets, American Jesus. Could be a new show, to replace Futurama maybe.
wellwisher
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Liberals live by fake news, so many Liberals assume everyone, even religion is as fake as them. But conservatives, like those who conserved the major religions for thousands of years, do not allow Liberals to have that much influence, or else they know what is being conserved, will turn to crap and go the way of the dinosaur. Longevity implies building on a solid foundation; conserved truth.
Teaching revisionist history, which is what the Liberals try to, as a way to repeat the mistakes of the past, instead of use the past as a lesson to the future. For example, the worse atrocities of the modern era were connected to Communists and Socialists experiments, yet the Left revises the past, instead of learn from its, and then thinks one more try will be the charm. There is no need to prove anything to those who live by fake news. They want to hear and believe a lie or gossip. They have been programmed that way.
Tomef
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Do you think this has some link to revised genealogies in the Bible?
To your more general point, revisionist histories aren’t the province of any particular political group. The Southern States, conservative Russia, holocaust deniers, nationalists everywhere, among others, all have a go at re-writing history to suit their views.
Tomef
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A conserved narrative, as far as that goes. The narrative you have about your religion would be mostly unrecognisable to someone who practised the same religion 2000 years ago. What is considered true varies a great deal over time, and that has nothing to do with politics.
Tomef
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That’s pretty daft. The most widely known critiques of Stalinism, Maoism and other versions of communist totalitarianism come from the left, in literature and political philosophy. Only in the fever dreams of ill-informed ultra-conservatives is anyone with any influence on the political left trying to re-establish autocracy in the US. Trump and your current SCOTUS majority are having a good stab at it, though.
Audie
Veteran Member
That this kind of facile garbage is seen as "great"
would be unthinkable if they had anything better.
Tomef
Well-Known Member
Better analysis does exist, but biblical literalists don’t like it.
No ancient scripture or writings can justify the validity of itself without independent evidence. The independent evidence confirms the Bible is not a reliable historical record.
There is genealogy extending over 50 pages in the Hindu Puranas. Therefore they must be true.
Audie
Veteran Member
Its a common thing in many societies incl
stone age ones to keep detailed geneaologies.
Often includimg ancestors who lived for centuries,
often back to god- ancestors.
You speak words without knowledge.
Archaeology has consistently verified it is reliable.
Where do you get your (mis)information?
All you have to do, is find an unbiased, reliable stele or relic that refutes a Biblical Event.