Article, “Internal Proofs of Bible Authenticity”

[Subduction Zone]

oh good, then we agree on what I said in the first place

Yes, it was absolute nonsense.

 

[Subduction Zone]

what do you mean flood myths?

Any person that can reason rationally and understands the concept of evidence can see that there never was a worldwide flood at any time when humans existed in any form.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

what do you mean flood myths?

A myth is a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.

A flood myth would be a myth about a flood.

For example, the Navajo (Diné) have a flood myth, which is part of their larger creation story. In their tradition, the world is divided into different worlds or layers. In this story, the inhabitants of the third world, including humans and animals, become corrupt and disruptive, leading the Holy People to send a great flood as a punishment. In order to escape, the people follow a series of animals and spiritual beings who guide them to safety, eventually leading them through a reed into the fourth world, which becomes the current world we live in.

 

[clara17]

A myth is a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.

A flood myth would be a myth about a flood.

For example, the Navajo (Diné) have a flood myth, which is part of their larger creation story. In their tradition, the world is divided into different worlds or layers. In this story, the inhabitants of the third world, including humans and animals, become corrupt and disruptive, leading the Holy People to send a great flood as a punishment. In order to escape, the people follow a series of animals and spiritual beings who guide them to safety, eventually leading them through a reed into the fourth world, which becomes the current world we live in.

I know what a myth is, what I mean is, since so many cultures have similar stories about a great flood or deluge, and since it is unlikely even one group would make up a myth about a great flood, let alone hundreds, who has the authority to claim that any or all are myths?

 

[clara17]

Yes, it was absolute nonsense.

Then why did you agree.

 

[Audie]

No. Go ahead.

Polar ice.
Ice floats.

 

[clara17]

Polar ice.
Ice floats.

well done.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

since it is unlikely even one group would make up a myth about a great flood, ...

Who made up that rule?

 

[clara17]

Who made up that rule?

Rule?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Rule?

Sorry, but your statement (quoted in post #248) was ignorant at best.

 

[clara17]

Sorry, but your statement (quoted in post #248) was ignorant at best.

Dont try to change the subject

 

[Audie]

well done.

So you've no idea
what it means for your.flood

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I know what a myth is, what I mean is, since so many cultures have similar stories about a great flood or deluge,

Because terrible local floods occur all around the world. Well, maybe not in the Mojave desert, but you get the idea.

and since it is unlikely even one group would make up a myth about a great flood,

Huh? If a devastating local flood happens, parents will tell their children and grandchildren. It will be passed down through the generation, being further embellished with each telling. How is this "unlikely"?

let alone hundreds, who has the authority to claim that any or all are myths?

They evolve into myths via the embellishment. For example, if I tell a scary story around the campfire, I alter it somewhat in order to make it scarier or more interesting. Now imagine every storyteller doing the same thing over thousands of years.

Let me ask you something. When you hear the African story of How the Zebra Got Its Stripes, do you think it is history, or do you think it is myth?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I know what a myth is, what I mean is, since so many cultures have similar stories about a great flood or deluge, and since it is unlikely even one group would make up a myth about a great flood, let alone hundreds, who has the authority to claim that any or all are myths?

Why do you think that such a myth is unlikely? It has been shown why it is so likely. But I want to hear your excuse first.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Then why did you agree.

We agreed that you posted absolute nonsense.

 

[Subduction Zone]

well done.

There is ice on Antarctica that is hundreds of thousands of years old. Undisturbed. Ice floats. Have you ever seen what happens when a glacier enters into the oceans? It is torn up as it advances forward when the ice gets far enough out it no longer is advancing over land. It floats and goes into pieces. The same would have happened to the ice sheets on both Antarctica and Greenland. As far as the ice cares there is no difference between flowing down into the sea or having the sea rise up to the ice sheets. They would have destroyed themselves.

How do you explain that without claiming that God is a liar?

 

[clara17]

Because terrible local floods occur all around the world. Well, maybe not in the Mojave desert, but you get the idea.

Huh? If a devastating local flood happens, parents will tell their children and grandchildren. It will be passed down through the generation, being further embellished with each telling. How is this "unlikely"?

They evolve into myths via the embellishment. For example, if I tell a scary story around the campfire, I alter it somewhat in order to make it scarier or more interesting. Now imagine every storyteller doing the same thing over thousands of years.

Let me ask you something. When you hear the African story of How the Zebra Got Its Stripes, do you think it is history, or do you think it is myth?

Why do you think that such a myth is unlikely? It has been shown why it is so likely. But I want to hear your excuse first.

Things happen for a reason, there would be little reason to create a flood myth if there wasnt one.

 

[clara17]

There is ice on Antarctica that is hundreds of thousands of years old. Undisturbed. Ice floats. Have you ever seen what happens when a glacier enters into the oceans? It is torn up as it advances forward when the ice gets far enough out it no longer is advancing over land. It floats and goes into pieces. The same would have happened to the ice sheets on both Antarctica and Greenland. As far as the ice cares there is no difference between flowing down into the sea or having the sea rise up to the ice sheets. They would have destroyed themselves.

How do you explain that without claiming that God is a liar?

Nonsense. You have no idea how old anything is. All speculation. And please dont do the "experts" believe or "experts" "estimate" crap

 

[Subduction Zone]

Things happen for a reason, there would be little reason to create a flood myth if there wasnt one.

Yes, rivers flood at times. Real floods probably inspired the various myths. Are you interested in learning how we know that there never was such a flood?

Here is an article on what was most probably the flood that inspired the myth. Even if you do not read the article one tidbit from it is that the area affected by the flood was large enough that one on a boat in the middle of it would have only seen water due to the curvature of the Earth:

Yes, Noah's Flood May Have Happened, But Not Over the Whole Earth | National Center for Science Education

Introduction The Bible (Genesis 6–9) describes a worldwide flood (the Noachian Flood) covering even the highest mountains of the earth and the construction of a huge boat (a rectangular box-like craft) that transported animals, at least two of a kind of all land animals on the earth.

ncse.ngo

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nonsense. You have no idea how old anything is. All speculation. And please dont do the "experts" believe or "experts" "estimate" crap

No, now you appear to be breaking the Ninth Commandment. Accusing others of "speculation" is an accusation and that puts the burden of proof upon you. It is not speculation. It is based upon observable repeatable science.