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Article, “Internal Proofs of Bible Authenticity”

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
what do you mean flood myths?
A myth is a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.

A flood myth would be a myth about a flood.

For example, the Navajo (Diné) have a flood myth, which is part of their larger creation story. In their tradition, the world is divided into different worlds or layers. In this story, the inhabitants of the third world, including humans and animals, become corrupt and disruptive, leading the Holy People to send a great flood as a punishment. In order to escape, the people follow a series of animals and spiritual beings who guide them to safety, eventually leading them through a reed into the fourth world, which becomes the current world we live in.
 

clara17

Memorable member
A myth is a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.

A flood myth would be a myth about a flood.

For example, the Navajo (Diné) have a flood myth, which is part of their larger creation story. In their tradition, the world is divided into different worlds or layers. In this story, the inhabitants of the third world, including humans and animals, become corrupt and disruptive, leading the Holy People to send a great flood as a punishment. In order to escape, the people follow a series of animals and spiritual beings who guide them to safety, eventually leading them through a reed into the fourth world, which becomes the current world we live in.
I know what a myth is, what I mean is, since so many cultures have similar stories about a great flood or deluge, and since it is unlikely even one group would make up a myth about a great flood, let alone hundreds, who has the authority to claim that any or all are myths?
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I know what a myth is, what I mean is, since so many cultures have similar stories about a great flood or deluge,
Because terrible local floods occur all around the world. Well, maybe not in the Mojave desert, but you get the idea. :)
and since it is unlikely even one group would make up a myth about a great flood,
Huh? If a devastating local flood happens, parents will tell their children and grandchildren. It will be passed down through the generation, being further embellished with each telling. How is this "unlikely"?
let alone hundreds, who has the authority to claim that any or all are myths?
They evolve into myths via the embellishment. For example, if I tell a scary story around the campfire, I alter it somewhat in order to make it scarier or more interesting. Now imagine every storyteller doing the same thing over thousands of years.

Let me ask you something. When you hear the African story of How the Zebra Got Its Stripes, do you think it is history, or do you think it is myth?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I know what a myth is, what I mean is, since so many cultures have similar stories about a great flood or deluge, and since it is unlikely even one group would make up a myth about a great flood, let alone hundreds, who has the authority to claim that any or all are myths?
Why do you think that such a myth is unlikely? It has been shown why it is so likely. But I want to hear your excuse first.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
well done.
There is ice on Antarctica that is hundreds of thousands of years old. Undisturbed. Ice floats. Have you ever seen what happens when a glacier enters into the oceans? It is torn up as it advances forward when the ice gets far enough out it no longer is advancing over land. It floats and goes into pieces. The same would have happened to the ice sheets on both Antarctica and Greenland. As far as the ice cares there is no difference between flowing down into the sea or having the sea rise up to the ice sheets. They would have destroyed themselves.

How do you explain that without claiming that God is a liar?
 

clara17

Memorable member
Because terrible local floods occur all around the world. Well, maybe not in the Mojave desert, but you get the idea. :)

Huh? If a devastating local flood happens, parents will tell their children and grandchildren. It will be passed down through the generation, being further embellished with each telling. How is this "unlikely"?

They evolve into myths via the embellishment. For example, if I tell a scary story around the campfire, I alter it somewhat in order to make it scarier or more interesting. Now imagine every storyteller doing the same thing over thousands of years.

Let me ask you something. When you hear the African story of How the Zebra Got Its Stripes, do you think it is history, or do you think it is myth?
Why do you think that such a myth is unlikely? It has been shown why it is so likely. But I want to hear your excuse first.
Things happen for a reason, there would be little reason to create a flood myth if there wasnt one.
 

clara17

Memorable member
There is ice on Antarctica that is hundreds of thousands of years old. Undisturbed. Ice floats. Have you ever seen what happens when a glacier enters into the oceans? It is torn up as it advances forward when the ice gets far enough out it no longer is advancing over land. It floats and goes into pieces. The same would have happened to the ice sheets on both Antarctica and Greenland. As far as the ice cares there is no difference between flowing down into the sea or having the sea rise up to the ice sheets. They would have destroyed themselves.

How do you explain that without claiming that God is a liar?
Nonsense. You have no idea how old anything is. All speculation. And please dont do the "experts" believe or "experts" "estimate" crap
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Things happen for a reason, there would be little reason to create a flood myth if there wasnt one.
Yes, rivers flood at times. Real floods probably inspired the various myths. Are you interested in learning how we know that there never was such a flood?

Here is an article on what was most probably the flood that inspired the myth. Even if you do not read the article one tidbit from it is that the area affected by the flood was large enough that one on a boat in the middle of it would have only seen water due to the curvature of the Earth:

 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Nonsense. You have no idea how old anything is. All speculation. And please dont do the "experts" believe or "experts" "estimate" crap
No, now you appear to be breaking the Ninth Commandment. Accusing others of "speculation" is an accusation and that puts the burden of proof upon you. It is not speculation. It is based upon observable repeatable science.
 
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