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[serp777]

You haven't been following Pope Francis then. He has an unbelievable humility, forgives all trespasses, prays for everyone in the world (constantly asked for prayers as well saying "he needs them"), embraces all people as brothers and sisters and keeps all of the church doctrines in place. Not once has he changed a doctrine only given special permission to make it easier for people to obtain forgiveness.

He wants a poor church for the poor and holds himself accountable to that standard. I thank God for Pope Francis.

None of that means he takes anything in the bible literally. I wasn't saying pope francis is a bad person. Pope francis believes in evolution, the scientific method, and has an extremely liberal morality that contradicts the bible.

And praying doesn't mean he thinks praying is effective. He does that because of cultural reasons. Have you noticed how he doesn't go around saying people have their cancer cured by prayers?

 

[metis]

None of that means he takes anything in the bible literally. I wasn't saying pope francis is a bad person. Pope francis believes in evolution, the scientific method, and has an extremely liberal morality that contradicts the bible.

And praying doesn't mean he thinks praying is effective. He does that because of cultural reasons. Have you noticed how he doesn't go around saying people have their cancer cured by prayers?

So, accepting the reality of evolution and using the scientific method is somehow contradictory to the Bible? And his morality is supposedly "very liberal" (such as which?)? And he only supposedly prays for "cultural reasons" and he doesn't say people can be cured?

How do you supposedly know all this about him? Remember, to "bear false witness" is a sin.

 

[Serenity Now]

None of that means he takes anything in the bible literally. I wasn't saying pope francis is a bad person. Pope francis believes in evolution, the scientific method, and has an extremely liberal morality that contradicts the bible.

And praying doesn't mean he thinks praying is effective. He does that because of cultural reasons. Have you noticed how he doesn't go around saying people have their cancer cured by prayers?

You have very little understanding of Catholic teaching and are making way too many assumptions in your posts:

The Catechism of the Catholic Church discourages literalism when it encourages believers to recognize the various literary genres found in the Bible. - See more at: http://www.uscatholic.org/articles/201508/do-catholics-believe-evolution-30288#sthash.5sKPh0es.dpuf

 

[Serenity Now]

Pope francis believes in evolution, the scientific method, and has an extremely liberal morality that contradicts the bible.

Nothing Pope Francis has taught contradicts the Bible or Catholic teaching and to say otherwise is a very misinformed statement.

 

[JehovahIsGodAlmighty]

@PopeADope please see post #535, I think you may have overlooked it.

 

[paarsurrey]

@PopeADope please see post #535, I think you may have overlooked it.

One may like to read post of May 15, 2016#536 .
Regards

 

[JehovahIsGodAlmighty]

One may like to read post of May 15, 2016#536 .
Regards

I've read and answered your post. You didn't provide any type of proof to the claim you made, you didn't even attempt to give a solid reason as to why you believed the statement you made. For those reasons I can't take the post seriously, you're going to have to give me something to work with . I tend to avoid those who have the "this is true/untrue simply just because" attitude.

By the way, if you honestly think God's name was never in the first 5 books of the bible or the new testament, you are sadly mistaking. Please do more research and study God's word more extensively and you may see the truth. Remember the devil and his demons are misleading people and trying to keep us from finding our God Jehovah (2 Corinthians 4:4, Revelation 12:9)

 

[metis]

Again, the name "Jehovah" is not a correct translation as there is no
J" sound in Hebrew.

 

[paarsurrey]

Again, the name "Jehovah" is not a correct translation as there is no
J" sound in Hebrew.

Very correct you are. I agree with you.
Regards

 

[JehovahIsGodAlmighty]

Again, the name "Jehovah" is not a correct translation as there is no
J" sound in Hebrew.

I'm sorry, I thought I was having a discussion in English because that's the language i speak. And for some reason, I thought the language used on this forum was English. I don't know where I got that crazy idea.

Seriously though, I know and understand that God Almighty's name is not Jehovah in Hebrew, it's Yahweh. We are speaking English here though, and the point I was trying to make is that God's name (Jehovah or Yahweh) should not be removed from his word the bible and replaced with the word lord. Who gave anybody authority to do that? It certainly wasn't Almighty God.

Very correct you are. I agree with you.
Regards

What do you know? You're probably just agreeing with him so it can look as if you were right. Let's not forget that you are the same guy that said God's name was not in the first 5 books of the bible. It was at that point that I knew you couldn't possibly know that much about God or his word

 

[metis]

I'm sorry, I thought I was having a discussion in English because that's the language i speak. And for some reason, I thought the language used on this forum was English. I don't know where I got that crazy idea.

Seriously though, I know and understand that God Almighty's name is not Jehovah in Hebrew, it's Yahweh. We are speaking English here though, and the point I was trying to make is that God's name (Jehovah or Yahweh) should not be removed from his word the bible and replaced with the word lord. Who gave anybody authority to do that? It certainly wasn't Almighty God.
What do you know? You're probably just agreeing with him so it can look as if you were right. Let's not forget that you are the same guy that said God's name was not in the first 5 books of the bible. It was at that point that I knew you couldn't possibly know that much about God or his word

You simply cannot have it both ways. You constantly rag on people not using the p.c. correct name that you say is "Jehovah", and then you come back with the above nonsense? Aren't you aware that "God" is another name for God that, in this case, comes from the German language? Aren't you aware that there are roughly 17 names for God mentioned in the Tanakh? If only one is supposedly proper, then why are the others used?

You have me confused with paarsurrey as I didn't say the part of the above of yours that I underlined.

 

[JehovahIsGodAlmighty]

You simply cannot have it both ways. You constantly rag on people not using the p.c. correct name that you say is "Jehovah", and then you come back with the above nonsense? Aren't you aware that "God" is another name for God that, in this case, comes from the German language? Aren't you aware that there are roughly 17 names for God mentioned in the Tanakh? If only one is supposedly proper, then why are the others used?

You have me confused with paarsurrey as I didn't say the part of the above of yours that I underlined.

What nonsense? Everything is said was true. Stop trying to steer the discussion in another direction, the point of my post is that nobody should have ever removed God's name from from his word. Don't believe me, just read Revelation 22:19.
Since you keep missing the point I'll ask you directly: Is it okay to remove God's name from the bible?

 

[4consideration]

Why do you think God's personal name was removed from many bible translations, and would you/do you willingly support or condone the use of a bible that has God's personal name removed?

I think it's not only disrespectful to our creator but is also misleading and more than likely why a lot of people are confused and think God's Son Jesus is God Almighty. What do you think? (See this link -----> https://researchsupportsthetruth.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/why-is-gods-name-missing-from-many-bibles/ or check the preface in your bible for more info) read revelation 22:18,19

Is the link you provided here a link to your own blog? Do you intend the verse of Revelation 22: 18,19 to be support for an argument that God is saying in the book of Revelations not to remove his name from the Bible?

 

[metis]

What nonsense? Everything is said was true. Stop trying to steer the discussion in another direction, the point of my post is that nobody should have ever removed God's name from from his word. Don't believe me, just read Revelation 22:19.
Since you keep missing the point I'll ask you directly: Is it okay to remove God's name from the bible?

You are again being inconsistent because, unless you have a Bible written in Hebrew, every name you will likely see will include the name of God in a different language. Therefore, you should not whine about others using a different name from a different language and then turn around and use language as your defense on why you use "Jehovah", which we know is grammatically incorrect.

Secondly, I really don't much care what's found in Rev. on this and most other matters.

Thirdly, you used God's name as "Yahweh" in a post a short tie back, and yet that is not a name we can confirm the spelling of since the name in Hebrew would not include the vowels, plus we cannot even be certain which vowels should be included.

And finally, I notice that you can't even bring yourself to apologize for mistaking me for another and then insulting me, so I guess that ends up saying a lot more about you than it does me.

 

[paarsurrey]

You are again being inconsistent because, unless you have a Bible written in Hebrew, every name you will likely see will include the name of God in a different language. Therefore, you should not whine about others using a different name from a different language and then turn around and use language as your defense on why you use "Jehovah", which we know is grammatically incorrect.
Secondly, I really don't much care what's found in Rev. on this and most other matters.
Thirdly, you used God's name as "Yahweh" in a post a short tie back, and yet that is not a name we can confirm the spelling of since the name in Hebrew would not include the vowels, plus we cannot even be certain which vowels should be included.
And finally, I notice that you can't even bring yourself to apologize for mistaking me for another and then insulting me, so I guess that ends up saying a lot more about you than it does me.

I agree with you.
Regards

 

[RabbiO]

I'm sorry, I thought I was having a discussion in English because that's the language i speak. And for some reason, I thought the language used on this forum was English. I don't know where I got that crazy idea.

Seriously though, I know and understand that God Almighty's name is not Jehovah in Hebrew, it's Yahweh. We are speaking English here though, and the point I was trying to make is that God's name (Jehovah or Yahweh) should not be removed from his word the bible and replaced with the word lord. Who gave anybody authority to do that? It certainly wasn't Almighty God.
What do you know? You're probably just agreeing with him so it can look as if you were right. Let's not forget that you are the same guy that said God's name was not in the first 5 books of the bible. It was at that point that I knew you couldn't possibly know that much about God or his word

First off, you're not discussing, you're ranting. I suggest you have a nice cup of tea and a prune danish and then calm down.

The only way in a translation to leave G-d's name in is to leave the name, the tetragrammaton, in Hebrew letters without translating it at all. While there are scholars who believe that the name was pronounced in a certain way in Hebrew, that pronunciation remains only an educated guess.

As for Jehovah, it is not a real name, it is a fabrication based upon a misunderstanding. In printed material that contains vowels, the vowels for Adonai are imposed upon the tetragrammaton as reminder to substitute/read Adonai where the name appears. Those vowels if articulated with the letters result in Yehovah, which is not G-d's name, which then translated erroneously winds up as Jehovah. Inserting Jehovah into a translation makes absolutely no sense.

You might as well put "Lawrence" or "Elmer". It would be the same thing.

 

[paarsurrey]

First off, you're not discussing, you're ranting. I suggest you have a nice cup of tea and a prune danish and then calm down.
The only way in a translation to leave G-d's name in is to leave the name, the tetragrammaton, in Hebrew letters without translating it at all. While there are scholars who believe that the name was pronounced in a certain way in Hebrew, that pronunciation remains only an educated guess.
As for Jehovah, it is not a real name, it is a fabrication based upon a misunderstanding. In printed material that contains vowels, the vowels for Adonai are imposed upon the tetragrammaton as reminder to substitute/read Adonai where the name appears. Those vowels if articulated with the letters result in Yehovah, which is not G-d's name, which then translated erroneously winds up as Jehovah. Inserting Jehovah into a translation makes absolutely no sense.
You might as well put "Lawrence" or "Elmer". It would be the same thing.

I agree with you on what I have coloured in magenta.
JW's are wrong here.
Regards

 

[Spiderman]

None of that means he takes anything in the bible literally. I wasn't saying pope francis is a bad person. Pope francis believes in evolution, the scientific method, and has an extremely liberal morality that contradicts the bible.

And praying doesn't mean he thinks praying is effective. He does that because of cultural reasons. Have you noticed how he doesn't go around saying people have their cancer cured by prayers?

The Bible contradicts itself enough I'm sure he doesn't contradict Scripture anymore than Scripture contradicts Scripture.

 

[Spiderman]

First off, you're not discussing, you're ranting. I suggest you have a nice cup of tea and a prune danish and then calm down.

The only way in a translation to leave G-d's name in is to leave the name, the tetragrammaton, in Hebrew letters without translating it at all. While there are scholars who believe that the name was pronounced in a certain way in Hebrew, that pronunciation remains only an educated guess.

As for Jehovah, it is not a real name, it is a fabrication based upon a misunderstanding. In printed material that contains vowels, the vowels for Adonai are imposed upon the tetragrammaton as reminder to substitute/read Adonai where the name appears. Those vowels if articulated with the letters result in Yehovah, which is not G-d's name, which then translated erroneously winds up as Jehovah. Inserting Jehovah into a translation makes absolutely no sense.

You might as well put "Lawrence" or "Elmer". It would be the same thing.

Amen! אָ יְהוּדִיand LOL

 

[shava]

I am well versed in Catholic Apologetics for I spent a year in a monastery studying it all.

I put this in the debate section that you may challenge and fire your arrows at the Pope!

The first 64 men listed by Rome as a succession of popes never made any such claim for themselves; nor were they in any sense ever regarded as Universal Patriarchs and heads of the church; on the contrary, both they and their associates repudiated such a pontifical office as anti-scriptural and anti-canon.
Prior to the year 606 A. D. there never was a church in Rome regarded as "mother", nor a Bishop regarded as the head of the universal church..”
“The Pope's Claim To Authority - No. 3” by W. Wallace Layton, April 13, 1950 issue of Gospel Guardian.