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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Metis, you are my favorite Jew. I apologize on behalf of all Catholics as John Paul II did to the whole world for how Catholics treated Jews.

Our Faith makes it very clear that Charity and the spiritual and corporal works of mercy is what we are supposed to perform, even for our enemies. Sadly, many Catholic don't give a ____!

I don't think it is the Pope's place to be speaking to the whole world about such things that (I'd assume) most Religious administrators are trained to know little about.

But perhaps you are changing my mind about that. :) The Pope is in the media so much I'm beginning to think He has the strongest voice of anyone on earth. Which can be scary, or be the best instrument for healing our sick world. We shall see.
He does have a science background whereas I would suggest probably very few previous popes had, plus he has stated that his position is based on the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community. It's a very serious problem, maybe the single most serious problem this world has faced other than nuclear annihilation.

Thanks for your kind words, and what has passed has passed-- we all try to live and learn from our mistakes, or at least should.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
He does have a science background whereas I would suggest probably very few previous popes had, plus he has stated that his position is based on the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community. It's a very serious problem, maybe the single most serious problem this world has faced other than nuclear annihilation.

Thanks for your kind words, and what has passed has passed-- we all try to live and learn from our mistakes, or at least should.
What do you think of the way Israel handles the conflict with Palestine. I do favor Israel as I think they are more humane, civilized, and descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but it is very sad to see some of the abuses and the mass killings of Palestinian Children and other innocents. It seems the West Bank is a miserable prison and a destitute unhappy life.

On the same token, I don't see Palestinians protesting but rather glorifying the terrorism and praising God every time Hezbollah fires a rocket at Israel, every suicide bombing, and every time an innocent Jew is killed. So much of the misfortune that happens to the Palestinians , they bring upon themselves.

It seems there is simply no solution. Jewish settlements are going to keep growing little by little into Palestinian territory and the Palestinians will keep reacting with violence. Will the bloodshed ever cease?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
What do you think of the way Israel handles the conflict with Palestine. I do favor Israel as I think they are more humane, civilized, and descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but it is very sad to see some of the abuses and the mass killings of Palestinian Children and other innocents. It seems the West Bank is a miserable prison and a destitute unhappy life.

On the same token, I don't see Palestinians protesting but rather glorifying the terrorism and praising God every time Hezbollah fires a rocket at Israel, every suicide bombing, and every time an innocent Jew is killed. So much of the misfortune that happens to the Palestinians , they bring upon themselves.

It seems there is simply no solution. Jewish settlements are going to keep growing little by little into Palestinian territory and the Palestinians will keep reacting with violence. Will the bloodshed ever cease?
Quote me in response to this as I have to sign off for the evening, and I'll try to get back with you tomorrow.

shalom
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Quote me in response to this as I have to sign off for the evening, and I'll try to get back with you tomorrow.

shalom
May The blessings of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the blessings of Moses, Elijah and all the Prophets assist and empower you night and day! :)

Shalom!
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Christians believe that Jesus rose from the dead 3 days after dying in the cross. You are literally asking why Christians teach what they believe is the truth.
Count of three days:
Friday (evening-Jesus delivered from the Cross), Saturday (evening- one day), Sunday (evening- two days), Monday (evening- three days), "Jesus rose from the dead 3 days after dying".
Is the count accurate? Please
Regards
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Count of three days:
Friday (evening-Jesus delivered from the Cross), Saturday (evening- one day), Sunday (evening- two days), Monday (evening- three days), "Jesus rose from the dead 3 days after dying".
Is the count accurate? Please
Regards
No. There is no evidence or logic behind thinking that Good Friday (death of Jesus) happened on a Friday. That day was most likely chosen out of convenience and bad assumptions. Same goes for Christmas, Passover, Easter, and every other religious holiday.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
IIRC, Sabbath was approaching and so cut short the frills.
Jesus was to resurrect from the dead. Why demand Jesus' body from Pilate? It was in the interest of Jesus, as he was to show a miracle, and his friends not to worry about the body if he was dead. They must have let the Jews do whatever they wanted to do with the dead body of Jesus. Jesus was to resurrect from the dead anyhow. let the miracle be so strong that Jews could know, once for all, as to what a miracle of Christian-god was? Sabbath or no Sabbath, it was not at all worry of Jesus or his friends. It was the worry of Pilate and Jews. Right? Please
Regards
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Jesus was to resurrect from the dead. Why demand Jesus' body from Pilate? It was in the interest of Jesus, as he was to show a miracle, and his friends not to worry about the body if he was dead. They must have let the Jews do whatever they wanted to do with the dead body of Jesus. Jesus was to resurrect from the dead anyhow. let the miracle be so strong that Jews could know, once for all, as to what a miracle of Christian-god was? Sabbath or no Sabbath, it was not at all worry of Jesus or his friends. It was the worry of Pilate and Jews. Right? Please
Regards
Nope. You need to actually read the gospels. It explains clearly that the disciples weren't too confident about Jesus resurecting, so your comment makes no sense.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
No. There is no evidence or logic behind thinking that Good Friday (death of Jesus) happened on a Friday. That day was most likely chosen out of convenience and bad assumptions. Same goes for Christmas, Passover, Easter, and every other religious holiday.
So, on what day Jesus died? Please
Regard
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
So, on what day Jesus died? Please
Regard
No one has any way of knowing for sure what day of the modern week Jesus died. Why would that matter though. It doesnt make your theory that he did not die on the cross any more likely. Both theories are based on stories handed down that cannot be verified in any valid way. That's where we are with the Quran, Torah, and every other religious text. They are filled with unverifiable claims.
 
Well, the Catholic spirituality has a lot more interaction with females in heaven , especially the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Rosary.

Females can help me more than males.

The Catholic church has an unbreakable chain of Popes that date back to the Apostle Peter who was the first Bishop of Rome.

The Catholic Church put together the first Bible. Catholic Church decided The Nicene Creed ,which is the most important dogmas that a Christian is supposed to believe, and Protestants agree on this.

The Catholic Church does more to care for the sick, shelter the homeless, and feed the hungry than any other institution on the face of the Earth.

It whas the Catholic church that started hospitals and universities and founded much of Western Civilization.

The Orthodox Church would disagree.

Anyway, how can you accept Original Sin when neither the Jews nor the Orthodox Christians believe in it? The early Christians didn't believe in it.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
The Orthodox Church would disagree.

Anyway, how can you accept Original Sin when neither the Jews nor the Orthodox Christians believe in it? The early Christians didn't believe in it.
I believe it because I read history and I look on the news and see how depraved and disgusting the behavior of human beings is, which tells me the curse that was placed upon our first parents continues to this day.

Either way, scripture says Adam and Eve were cursed to die , whereas before the fall they would have lived forever. We, like them are all falling apart , dying , living by the sweat of our brow, drama with women and they are still in agony during childbirth , and all the curse that was on Adam and Eve is on the human race.
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
The thing that people forget about the three days and night in the tomb is that there are two different kinds of sabbaths. The weekly sabbath happens every Saturday. But there are annual sabbaths like Passover that can happen on any day of the week.There is evidence that the Passover that year was on Thursday which would mean Jesus died on Wednesday evening and was buried before the start of the Passover sabbath. Three days and three nights from that would be Saturday evening. Now nowhere does it actually say Jesus rose on Sunday. It says people went to the tomb very early Sunday morning and found it empty. Did Jesus rise 5 minutes before they got there? Maybe an hour? Maybe several hours? If he died Wednesday evening and rose Saturday evening that would be exactly three days and three nights. This is how long the Bible says He was in the tomb but people have these preconceived ideas and try to say that the Bible does not really mean what it says.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I am well versed in Catholic Apologetics for I spent a year in a monastery studying it all.

I put this in the debate section that you may challenge and fire your arrows at the Pope! :)
So what do you think of the Pope saying that Birth should be used to prevent spread of the Zika virus.

Pope suggests contraceptives could be used to slow spread of Zika.


If the logic is that contraceptive can be used to avoid the suffering that comes from the Zika virus, does that not mean that contraceptives can be used in other situations to avoid other negative consequences. Does this represent a major change in Catholic policy?
 
I believe it because I read history and I look on the news and see how depraved and disgusting the behavior of human beings is, which tells me the curse that was placed upon our first parents continues to this day.

Either way, scripture says Adam and Eve were cursed to die , whereas before the fall they would have lived forever. We, like them are all falling apart , dying , living by the sweat of our brow, drama with women and they are still in agony during childbirth , and all the curse that was on Adam and Eve is on the human race.

That doesn't prove the doctrine of Original Sin, which is a novelty of western Christianity. In the 1,000 years since the apostolic see of Rome schismed from the other apostolic sees and the rest of the Orthodox, many novelties have been introduced by Roman Catholic theologians. The RC doctrine of Original Sin continued to evolve up until the 19th century, when the Catholic pope promulgated the Dogma of Mary's Immaculate Conception, further deepening the chasm on this topic between Roman Catholicism and Orthodox Christianity.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Nope. You need to actually read the gospels. It explains clearly that the disciples weren't too confident about Jesus resurrecting, so your comment makes no sense.
Jesus never made the disciples ever believe that he was going to resurrect from the clinically dead/real dead / literal dead. How could Jesus make the disciples believe a thing he never believed for himself?
The anonymous gospels that were doctored by Paul (his associates and the Church) and named them after Matthew,Marks and John etc, just for credence, he changed them to suit his plan but still there are many clues in them that expose him clearly. The truth could be ascertained from these Gospels to see through them.
Regards
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
What do you think of the way Israel handles the conflict with Palestine. I do favor Israel as I think they are more humane, civilized, and descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but it is very sad to see some of the abuses and the mass killings of Palestinian Children and other innocents. It seems the West Bank is a miserable prison and a destitute unhappy life.
Just look at reported body counts. For every Israeli killed by a Palestinian, the Israeli government encourages the killing of scores more. That's hardly humane. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob got success through trickery and douchebagness, if not all out war.

The US has already been down this road. It's a grave sin to take people's stuff and kill them because you want their stuff. Pretty sure "coveting" is against the Ten Commandments.

Jesus was to resurrect from the dead. Why demand Jesus' body from Pilate? It was in the interest of Jesus, as he was to show a miracle, and his friends not to worry about the body if he was dead.
Pilate would've been much more impressed had Jesus woken up in front of him, no? IIRC, the rules were no executions on the Sabbath, and Friday night was approaching, so they had to hurry and get him buried (conveniently in an above-ground tomb instead of a grave).

I believe it because I read history and I look on the news and see how depraved and disgusting the behavior of human beings is, which tells me the curse that was placed upon our first parents continues to this day.
Resources (or lack thereof) contribute a good majority of the problem. Adam and Eve are irrelevant. We are just as capable of sharing as we are fighting, but panic thanks to desperation overrides good sense sometimes. Plus, the news likes negative stories.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
Jesus was to resurrect from the dead. Why demand Jesus' body from Pilate? It was in the interest of Jesus, as he was to show a miracle, and his friends were not to worry about the body if he was dead.
Pilate would've been much more impressed had Jesus woken up in front of him, no? IIRC, the rules were no executions on the Sabbath, and Friday night was approaching, so they had to hurry and get him buried (conveniently in an above-ground tomb instead of a grave).
It was Pilate's plan to save Jesus in a way that it apparently looked to Jews as if Jesus was being killed.
Otherwise if Pilate would have any problem due to the approaching Sabbath he would have chosen another day to crucify Jesus. Pilate chose a day that Jesus remains on the Cross only for some hours.
There are many a clues in the doctored Gospels that tell the actual story . The truth could be ascertained from these Gospels if one sees through the the events closely.
Regards
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
What do you think of the way Israel handles the conflict with Palestine. I do favor Israel as I think they are more humane, civilized, and descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but it is very sad to see some of the abuses and the mass killings of Palestinian Children and other innocents. It seems the West Bank is a miserable prison and a destitute unhappy life.

On the same token, I don't see Palestinians protesting but rather glorifying the terrorism and praising God every time Hezbollah fires a rocket at Israel, every suicide bombing, and every time an innocent Jew is killed. So much of the misfortune that happens to the Palestinians , they bring upon themselves.

It seems there is simply no solution. Jewish settlements are going to keep growing little by little into Palestinian territory and the Palestinians will keep reacting with violence. Will the bloodshed ever cease?
This issue has been going on for about 1400 years, so don't expect a quick fix. Israel has both the right and the obligation to defend itself, and there can always be debate as to whether they use too much force, too little, or just enough. I've spent some time in the West Bank, and it really isn't anywhere near as bad as some portray it. OTOH, the Gaza Strip isn't a nice place, although I've not been there. Christians are leaving because they have become the targets of Islamic militants.

Hamas views this as a religious war, and they officially have said and continue to say that they simply will not accept Israel as a Jewish state. This particular view comes largely from the "Hadith", which states that once an area is under Islamic control, it must remain as such.

Anyhow, this is off-topic, so I will not respond more dealing with this conflict.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
This issue has been going on for about 1400 years, so don't expect a quick fix. Israel has both the right and the obligation to defend itself, and there can always be debate as to whether they use too much force, too little, or just enough. I've spent some time in the West Bank, and it really isn't anywhere near as bad as some portray it. OTOH, the Gaza Strip isn't a nice place, although I've not been there. Christians are leaving because they have become the targets of Islamic militants.
Hamas views this as a religious war, and they officially have said and continue to say that they simply will not accept Israel as a Jewish state. This particular view comes largely from the "Hadith", which states that once an area is under Islamic control, it must remain as such.
Anyhow, this is off-topic, so I will not respond more dealing with this conflict.
But Torah-Prophets doesn't defend the Judaism people.
Regards
 
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