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AlanGurvey said:He has a point :jiggy:
.........HE? HE WHO?
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AlanGurvey said:He has a point :jiggy:
Don't forget the Gospel of Mary...and what about excluded OT works like the Book of Jubilees or Enoch?Halcyon said:That's all fascinating stuff Mark. But what i really meant was, what makes the stuff that's in the NT now any more religiously reliable than the Gospels of Thomas, Philip, Truth or Pistis Sophia?
Happy to hear the link helpt.Mark1615 said:Time Spender,
I looked into your link about the Qu'ran (I think I spelled it right), and it is interesting. Though I would like to know the context in which many of those verses were used. Also, some of those same predictions/proofs are mentioned in the Bible, which would account for Islam and Christianitys' common roots. Thanks for that reference.
This doesnt proove anything. Try to keep it logical.I'd like to jump in on the question, "Why did God have to send the Messiah through human flesh?"
There is an inherent concept of God as being transcendent -- wholly Other than us. Part of the work of reconciliation is that we must learn to become more like God. The overarching story of the Hb scriptures is God's seeking us out. By becoming one of us, God became immanent, or close to us -- not Other. God did this so that we, who live in a physical world, could experience God in that way -- through the senses, and understand the similarities, as well as the remaining differences, between God and humanity.
There is a wonderful picture, which I'm sure you've all seen. It's Michelangelo's depiction of the creation, on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. In the painting, God stretches out a finger from heaven, reaching for humanity. Adam lies on the ground, reaching a finger up to heaven, toward God. Their fingers do not quite touch, creating both a tiny gap and a deep chasm. God in the form of Jesus provides the bridge that brings God and humanity close enough to "touch" each other. Thus, reconciliation
YOU! :biglaugh:Buttons* said:.........HE? HE WHO?
If that is what you would like to believe, that is fine. I don't mean to sound like I don't care what you think, but I believe I have given enough evidence for nearly all of everyone's questions.Buttons* said:Mark, Faith is you're only real argument on any of these questions... I still haven't found satisfaction in Halcyon's questions from the VERY begining of this thread... would you like me to post them again?
I'll drop the questions though if you'd like to tell me, "there is no real answer, i take everything upon faith"
Unfortunately, I don't know much about extra-biblical works. But I can continue to stress the validity of the Bible itself.spacemonkey said:Don't forget the Gospel of Mary...and what about excluded OT works like the Book of Jubilees or Enoch?
Most likely, but I don't remember. If you would like, give a reference to where it is and I will try to answer it.GoldenDragon said:was my question ever answered?
I found your post!GoldenDragon said:As a Christian even I have questions about my faith. I have one in mind right now (I kind of forgot the others,forgive me I have a short memory) but here goes:
What is the REAL deal behind the loin cloth on Jesus on the Crucifix ,I've been through 12 years of Catholic school praying to the statue of the Crucifix and asked my teachers who would always say it was for decency,but I always wondered if there was something more to it cause at the age when the Crucifix was made alot of other human statues were sculpted in the more "natural" state...Is there something else behind the loin cloth or am I over thinking this?
I don't want to read the 151 posts before this one, so I apologize if these questions have been asked:Mark1615 said:No more questions!?!? :shout
Did I answer them all, or did I give crappy answers and no one wants to deal with me anymore?
... dude, im a girlAlanGurvey said:YOU! :biglaugh:
Mark1615 said:Did I answer them all, or did I give crappy answers and no one wants to deal with me anymore?
I shall call attention to a few questions that I feel were not adequately addressed:Mark1615 said:Angellous,
You are a good person and a true help. Thank you.
2) post #50 - You repeatedly tried to answer this one, but you kept asking for specifics. You should be aware of a harmony of the Gospels. The Gospels do not match in chronological or geographic order. In some cases, the words of Christ differ (like what He said on the cross). Which one is more reliable? (A.T. Robertson, for example, wrote A Harmony of the Gospels which should help).Mark said:Some Bible scholars would say that these people are just as valid as those in the Scriptures. But I really don't know why their works weren't chosen, other than to say that the early groups who canonized the Bible deemed them "uninspired" by God. I don't know that much on that subject, but I can certainly find out! Sorry.
3) post #66 - I don't think you addressed any of these questions...Halcyon said:Which is the most accurate of the four gospels, since each gives a contradictory account of events?
Buttons said:Often I hear people say, "It's all in God's plan," "This was not in God's plan" "God has a special plan for everyone, and it doesnt include certian things" "We can't know God's plan, but we can know God and what he wants for our lives through the scriptures"... ***?
Do you think you know God's plan? If so, would you like to share it with us?
Do you believe that demons cause all bad things to happen?
Couldn't an almighty God simply wish away Satan, blood spilled or not?
If God is omnipresent, is he in your ears?
To your first question: The Bible affirms in Revelation 21:4 that there will be no sorrow, no more death, or pain, etc. Some people wonder, however, how they could be happy in heaven when they know that their unsaved loved ones are suffering in hell.Faint said:I don't want to read the 151 posts before this one, so I apologize if these questions have been asked:
1) Is everyone happy in heaven?
This is the wrong question to ask...Is there assurance that you will make it to heaven in the first place? Because only those who have received Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior will be "admitted" to heaven. Your original question brings up MANY theological issues beyond just "Can you get kicked out of heaven?"Faint said:I don't want to read the 151 posts before this one, so I apologize if these questions have been asked:
2) If you are admitted to heaven can you get kicked out?
I am not aware of any passages that mention specifically 'free will.' But from what I have researched and heard, there will be free will, but our 'will' will be to glorify God. I believe we will have the choice to do evil, but we won't want to.Faint said:I don't want to read the 151 posts before this one, so I apologize if these questions have been asked:
3) Will you have freewill in heaven?
Sorry, Buttons! I forgot about this post.Buttons* said:Often I hear people say, "It's all in God's plan," "This was not in God's plan" "God has a special plan for everyone, and it doesnt include certian things" "We can't know God's plan, but we can know God and what he wants for our lives through the scriptures"... ***?
Do you think you know God's plan? If so, would you like to share it with us?