Ask me any bible related question!

[Subduction Zone]

My best guess is this poster is going to be bombarded with questions that he probably wont be able to answer and that's ok.

I think it's important to add that one doesn't have to know everything to have a belief in something. My wife believes the brakes on our car will stop her, but she has knowledge of hydraulics.

There is no problem having a religious faith. But when one makes unsupportable and false claims about one's religion they should not be surprised when others point out the errors. I have always found it to be a bit ironic when Christians break the Commandment on false idols by making a false idol of the Bible.

 

[anonymous9887]

Why does Abrahamic god need prophets, instead of just telling everyone the same thing?
Tom

Im not sure. Good question though. Definitely worth examining. I would say god selected the prophets like Moses for instance because of the relationship they had with god, or god saw special qualities in them that allowed god to draw close to them. At the same time it is a privilege to speak for god.

 

[Trackdayguy]

There is no problem having a religious faith. But when one makes unsupportable and false claims about one's religion they should not be surprised when others point out the errors. I have always found it to be a bit ironic when Christians break the Commandment on false idols by making a false idol of the Bible.

Totally agree. I think the big issue I have with Christianity is their insistence that their right and everyone else is wrong

 

[columbus]

Im not sure. Good question though. Definitely worth examining. I would say god selected the prophets like Moses for instance because of the relationship they had with god, or god saw special qualities in them that allowed god to draw close to them. At the same time it is a privilege to speak for god.

I think it's more likely that the prophets made up a god, in their own image, and benefited from their status of Prophet.
Tom

 

[anonymous9887]

My best guess is this poster is going to be bombarded with questions that he probably wont be able to answer and that's ok.

I think it's important to add that one doesn't have to know everything to have a belief in something. My wife believes the brakes on our car will stop her, but she has knowledge of hydraulics.

The thing is nobody knows everything, but these questions are not new. The more we embrace questions and finding the answers the closer we may come to the truth, and if all else fails we have given our brain some really good exercise. But By the end of the thread lets suppose I will have 30 questions I couldn't answer now I can put them on a list and start working on answering these questions. Then I have somethings to work with. Then next time I do another thread like this and I will get more questions and now I will have a database of questions I have answered and have given attention to. Next time somebody asks the questions I will know the answer.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I think it's more likely that the prophets made up a god, in their own image, and benefited from their status of Prophet.
Tom

And some of those "prophets" did not even exist. Take Moses as an example. The Biblical Exodus clearly did not happen.

 

[columbus]

And some of those "prophets" did not even exist. Take Moses as an example. The Biblical Exodus clearly did not happen.

It didn't happen as described.
But that doesn't mean that the Moses Legend wasn't based on a real person.
Tom

 

[Subduction Zone]

The thing is nobody knows everything, but these questions are not new. The more we embrace questions and finding the answers the closer we may come to the truth, and if all else fails we have given our brain some really good exercise. But By the end of the thread lets suppose I will have 30 questions I couldn't answer now I can put them on a list and start working on answering these questions. Then I have somethings to work with. Then next time I do another thread like this and I will get more questions and now I will have a database of questions I have answered and have given attention to. Next time somebody asks the questions I will know the answer.

You might not have "the" answer, but you might have an answer. Meanwhile here is helpful link on Bible self contradictions. It is rather self explanatory:

http://bibviz.com/

Each line connects two contradictions.

And if you like videos this one is rather entertaining:

 

[Subduction Zone]

It didn't happen as described.
But that doesn't mean that the Moses Legend wasn't based on a real person.
Tom

It could have been, but even that is rather dubious. But legends do often have a seed of reality to them. It depends on how far one is willing to have the possible real person that he was based upon and still call him "Moses". For example we know that there never was a worldwide flood. Nor that mankind was ever threatened by a flood, but there was a large flood in the area that may have inspired the stories that eventually became the Bible story:

https://ncse.com/library-resource/yes-noahs-flood-may-have-happened-not-over-whole-earth

 

[stvdv]

And some of those "prophets" did not even exist. Take Moses as an example. The Biblical Exodus clearly did not happen.

Moses is my favorite "prophet". So a bit disappointed hearing this. But I'm okay with it, because for me it's the useful teaching that is important.
[Even if Biblical Exodus did not happen, Moses could still have existed while others created "fake news" around Moses real life. I would be surprised if any Bible story is true, after so many years knowing that Roman Church has been about power and money also; maybe even more than about telling the truth. I hope not, but I am a realist]

 

[BSM1]

Your interpretation of Isaiah 45:7, please.

 

[dianaiad]

Feel free to ask me about the theology of scripture, manuscripts, life biggest questions, alleged contradictions, context of passages etc... I dont know everything but I like to hear the objections and the difficult questions and problems people have with scripture. Please provide the references if possible, and any relevant evidence.

uhmn.....


why?

Now I could come here and tell everybody to feel free to ask me about the intricacies of astrophysics, quantum theory and the precise processes of plate tectonics, but I don't think that doing so would be a good use of anybody's time.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Feel free to ask me about the theology of scripture, manuscripts, life biggest questions, alleged contradictions, context of passages etc... I dont know everything but I like to hear the objections and the difficult questions and problems people have with scripture. Please provide the references if possible, and any relevant evidence.

Sure. One question I have is why was the Apocrypha split up with reasons given as being not relevant or applicable given the same origins that the Apocrypha shares with the Bible are indistinguishable? And whom precisely decided that?

 

[Apologes]

Totally agree. I think the big issue I have with Christianity is their insistence that their right and everyone else is wrong

Isn't the universalist doing the same thing by insisting only those who accept universalism are right and everyone else is wrong? Unless you're a complete relativist you can't get away from considering people who disagree with you wrong.

 

[Apologes]

Hard to say. It is clear that the Tyre prophecy was in reference to the attack of Nebuchadnezzar. The author knew that was going to happen. He predicted victory for Nebby, but it did not happen. Tyre had a history of being attacked both before and after the prophecy, extending it past that one attack is a totally unjustified reinterpretation. And of course the Tyre prophesy was a twofer (buy one get one free) he also included a failed prophecy about Egypt in it. Zeke was not firing on all eight cylinders when he wrote that.

That's the trick. Is it unjustified? You'd be surprised how muddy the narrative in the Prophets can get. I'm curious to how the OP will respond since I myself am not sure about this.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's the trick. Is it unjustified? You'd be surprised how muddy the narrative in the Prophets can get. I'm curious to how the OP will respond since I myself am not sure about this.

In this case yes since it was part of the history of the island. Due to its position and desirability it was attacked in the past and all but guaranteed to be attacked in the future. That makes a prophecy that it would be attacked and eventually defeated, since it was also defeated in the past, on the same order as me predicting that you will see a red car the next time you go for a drive. By denigrating the prophecy to the point where it cannot be wrong the prophecy is made worthless. So one has a choice, are prophecies wrong sometimes or are they worthless? People that demand that all prophecies in the Bible are true also end up as a result stating that the prophecies of the Bible are worthless. That is rather counterproductive in my opinion.

 

[anonymous9887]

Your interpretation of Isaiah 45:7, please.

At the begining of chapter 45 it is talking about kings Cyrus and Jehovah is explaining how he is sovereign of the universe. Nothing can happen unless god allows things to happen. I interpret verse 7 as adversity not evil as the KJV puts it. So Jehovah can allow a kingdom to prosper or for it to be destroyed. For instance god can stop all evil right now but he chooses not to. Of course that is another discussion. Daniel 2:21. In short god can allow calamity or adversity to take place although he is not the cause.

 

[anonymous9887]

Sure. One question I have is why was the Apocrypha split up with reasons given as being not relevant or applicable given the same origins that the Apocrypha shares with the Bible are indistinguishable? And whom precisely decided that?

Those are good questions. I don't have an answer

 

[Hockeycowboy]

please provide the reference. Quick answer is Jehovah was referring to the commercial empire that Tyre was at the time, never has it become the commercial empire it once was.

I figured Tyre would come up, eventually.

Here's some information:

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101992072#h=60:0-61:652

 

[Hockeycowboy]

please provide the reference. Quick answer is Jehovah was referring to the commercial empire that Tyre was at the time, never has it become the commercial empire it once was.

I figured Tyre would come up, eventually.

Here's some information:

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101992072#h=60:0-61:652