Assume you are the " creator "

[Onoma]

Making yourself a man would entail destroying godhood. So, in the end you would destroy God... Okay, I guess.

Would it ?

Why then would Mesopotamians and Egyptians consider men to be gods ?

Seems like well-attested to historical tradition is counter to your personal philosophy

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I guess I am unsure of what the question is, but I'll try again

What you said was this: " I was wondering how does creation, say looking at the sunset, show characteristics of an abrahamic god, without referring to scripture or any written and oral reference related to christianity ? "

" How " would refer to the method ?

That would be metrology- the science of measurement

" Show " would refer to how this was presented ?

That would be data and analysis of the data gleaned while measuring

Where you say " characteristics of an Abrahamic God ", I am unclear what you mean, because this is something that is usually described differently by almost any person asked and seems to be all over the board - God is tolerant, God is intolerant, God is peaceful and loving, God is wrathful and vengeful, and so on

Are you Christian? Or believe creation is the sign of a creator?

I'm not a theist so I can't figure how say a sunset points to a creator. But I think @Brian2 is a theist.

Characteristics of creation that points to a creator.

So, a Christian would say a sunset is evidence of a creator. How does one draw that conclusion without scripture (and the word god) involved?

 

[Onoma]

Are you Christian? Or believe creation is the sign of a creator?

I would say yes, but my beliefs ( The minutiae ) would have many other Christians saying " no "

Creation a sign of the creator ?

Mmmm, I would say more that I believe that if some entity and / or entities " created " the universe and they wanted to leave the evidence for us to discover, it would be through metrology ( The science of measurement ) and analysis combined with pure math

I'm not a theist so I can't figure how say a sunset points to a creator. But I think @Brian2 is a theist.

Characteristics of creation that points to a creator.

So, a Christian would say a sunset is evidence of a creator. How does one draw that conclusion without scripture (and the word god) involved?

Well, again, I am far from what most folks would consider a Christian and my ideas and beliefs where theology are concerned would not have me making a claim that a mere sunset is satisfactory evidence, so I am not sure I could go along with what I feel is an untenable leap of logic ....

 

[Koldo]

Would it ?

Why then would Mesopotamians and Egyptians consider men to be gods ?

Seems like well-attested to historical tradition is counter to your personal philosophy

Because they weren't considered men in the first place. I would be cautious when looking so far back though, it can be way too easy to be mislead by the writtings left behind.

 

[Onoma]

Because they weren't considered men in the first place.

I will admit you lost me there

Deification started with Naram-Sin ( Not a mythological character )

 

[Brian2]

Can you give an example of how creation itself lead to a believe in god and tell one about god?

For example, a sunset? A baby in the womb? or so have you...

Is there something specific that connects the two? A hunch?

Good question. I would say more than a hunch. There no doubt is intuition involved but a careful considering of of nature also and how it may have come about and why it is so amazing.
Then I look at attempts by some people (and even by some scientists) to show otherwise and can see that they are working on a hunch instead of facts.
Then I look at the Bible and can see that God has even shown Himself to us in history.