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Atheism: Good enough for these idiots. Meme

Retcha

Member
I usually don't look up memes. But if you have google imaged. Then you have probably seen this. But i found this picture kinda interesting though :p

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ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
There was a thread a few years ago with this very same picture and several people pointed out that not all of them were atheists.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Carl Sagan was an atheist and Dawkins, but I know Mark Twain was not an atheist. Ben Franklin was a deist, I think. Charles Darwin was an agnostic.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There's one great equalizer for all of us when discussing religion:
No one of us has any greater expertise about gods than the other.
 
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Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Carl Sagan was an atheist and Dawkins, but I know Mark Twain was not an atheist. Ben Franklin was a deist, I think. Charles Darwin was an agnostic.
I looked them up, and yes Darwin was very strong on his agnostic view and considered atheism to be too aggressive. From what I could find though, it seems like Sagan was also agnostic and not atheist.
 

Retcha

Member
I don't think that really matters, although there are some people of my faith who think those who don't believe in "their" God is an atheist. :)
I guess its a smack on the face to people with absolute crusading spirit of atheism. Not saying people who are atheists do this. But childhood and upraising and finding out what you wanna do is mostly important.

I remember the first time i was called "ignorant" and i thought of it as an insult since i didn't know when i asked a question. But yeah, i guess when you are new to the internet :p

 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I looked them up, and yes Darwin was very strong on his agnostic view and considered atheism to be too aggressive. From what I could find though, it seems like Sagan was also agnostic and not atheist.
Hmm... So are any of those pictured actually atheists, then?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I remember the first time i was called "ignorant" and i thought of it as an insult since i didn't know when i asked a question.
To be ignorant is a fine state:
- It can be cured, if one wants.
- It is unassailable (in it is without error).
- It beats the Hell out of pretending to know something.
- It's non-threatening.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
To be ignorant is a fine state:
- It can be cured, if one wants.
- It is unassailable (in it is without error).
- It beats the Hell out of pretending to know something.
- It's non-threatening.
Also, we're all ignorant of something; in fact, we're ignorant of more things than we are not ignorant of.
 

Retcha

Member
To be ignorant is a fine state:
- It can be cured, if one wants.
- It is unassailable (in it is without error).
- It beats the Hell out of pretending to know something.
- It's non-threatening.
Well the thing is saying it straight out when one doesn't have knowledge is in a way to insult. Or to act like this really big snob. Not trying to insult people who are smart, but it lies in the attitude. To try to convey that. This is what is correct instead of going all up in the face. Thats what bothered me the first time.

I haven't seen much of Penn Jillette. But got recommended from South Park when i saw this commentary. And he seem like an ok dude.
 

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
Wow, a lot of big claims made in that video there (1st one in thread). Where did you dig up that guy, blaming pagans for worldwide despotism, paranoid about genetic engineering and androids. Wisdom and moral seriousness coming under attack? What the heck?
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Hmm... So are any of those pictured actually atheists, then?
Only Dawkins labels himself as one. Darwin, Sagan, and Einstein all disliked being associated with or thought of as atheists, from what I can gather. But it's also important to realized that they were not Theists either.
 
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