Atheism: The Great Nothing!

[jarofthoughts]

I hold no intrest in the use of myths in order to support points, and Atheist do this a lot.

Peace.

You do it all the time so why can't we? :sarcastic

 

[Copernicus]

I hold no intrest in the use of myths in order to support points, and Atheist do this a lot.

Mickiel, by your reasoning, every myth is true because someone rejects it. I think that even you must understand how boneheaded that kind of reasoning can be. Atheism takes all gods to be mythological. That does not mean that all gods exist. Nor does it mean that atheism is a correct position. It only means that atheists are people who do not believe in gods. Even you must understand that on some level of your mind. You aren't advancing the discussion by mindlessly repeating a failed argument.

 

[mickiel]

. You aren't advancing the discussion by mindlessly repeating a failed argument.

It fails with you, it susceeds with me, and inspires me on to more. Atheist have cut themselves off from God, but don't understand they are being used by God to further the oppisition that God needs to exist. Atheism is created, preplanned oppisition, so God had to blind their minds to him, lest they believe.

Atheism is a wheel that God spins, it is he who is truly behind it. Their blindness to him, is proof of him. The power to cause unbelief, and belief as well, is his. So both sides of that coin is evidence that he exist.

Peace.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Why do some scientist find God not necessary to explain anything? :angel2:

Because not once in the history of humanity has the answer to any question ever been discovered to be "God". Certainly not in science.

So far we cannot test everything in the universe; yet we believe that we will someday (not in our life time, though).
We do not daily test our aircraft during flight; but we believe that someone has checked them well. And we have faith that this time they will fly us to our destination.

No, we trust that they will because aircrafts have daily safety checks, and are well known as a reliable form of transportation. This is not the same as holding a belief in the regard that you are indicating it is.

We as babies were helpless; but we believed and had faith that our parents would not harm us but instead protect and nurture us to healthy adults.

That has nothing to do with belief. As babies, we have no choice over who or what raises us to maturity, or in what manner they do so.

All people exercise their faith and beliefs in someone and something almost everyday; regardless of their religious or non-religious beliefs.

But surely you understand that my "belief" that the milk I pour on my cereal every morning won't explode is an entirely different kind of "belief" to your belief in ineffable concepts and deities. One is a position held to be true on the basis of past experience, evidence, analysis, repeated objective experience, reliability and rationality, while the other is a belief held based on a combination of faith, conditioning and tradition.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

It fails with you, it susceeds with me, and inspires me on to more. Atheist have cut themselves off from God, but don't understand they are being used by God to further the oppisition that God needs to exist. Atheism is created, preplanned oppisition, so God had to blind their minds to him, lest they believe.

Atheism is a wheel that God spins, it is he who is truly behind it. Their blindness to him, is proof of him. The power to cause unbelief, and belief as well, is his. So both sides of that coin is evidence that he exist.

Hey, I know someone who claims to be God. I don't believe him, but my other friend does. Surely, then, he must be God, since obviously the only reason I don't believe him is because he's intentionally blinded me to the truth! So, it must be true!!

Honestly, Mickiel, how do you not realize how completely daft this argument is? Are you honestly this deluded?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Atheism is nothing but satanism.

Depends on your definition of Satanism, I suppose. I've heard many.

 

[mickiel]

Honestly, Mickiel, how do you not realize how completely daft this argument is? Are you honestly this deluded?

Delusion comes from God, he created it when he created the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, and mixed them both into the human consciousness. God is the author of sanity and insanity. He is the author of Theism and Atheism, he rules over both.

And uses both.

You just don't see and understand this.

And I understand why you don't, you were not fashioned to understand it. You were chosen to be in the oppisition, because its what your best at thinking.

Peace.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Delusion comes from God, he created it when he created the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, and mixed them both into the human consciousness. God is the author of sanity and insanity. He is the author of Theism and Atheism, he rules over both.

And uses both.

You just don't see and understand this.

And I understand why you don't, you were not fashioned to understand it. You were chosen to be in the oppisition, because its what your best at thinking.

So, you're serious then?

Honestly, I think may join Meow Mix in putting you on ignore. I see no reason whatsoever to indulge your ridiculous logic and childishly inane reasoning. If you seriously think this logic makes sense, then you are hopelessly, hopelessly deluded.

 

[mickiel]

Atheism is nothing but satanism.

Well I disagree, Atheism is not satanism. Satan is the god of this world, Atheist don't believe in Gods.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

So, you're serious then?

Honestly, I think may join Meow Mix in putting you on ignore..

Will wonders never cease, that is a good thought.

Nice knowing you, and good fortune to you.

Peace.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Well I disagree, Atheism is not satanism. Satan is the god of this world, Atheist don't believe in Gods.

Well, we can actually agree on something there.

 

[mickiel]

Well, we can actually agree on something there.

Well in my view, satanism is the worship of satan, who is an earthly god. Certain believers in God associate Atheist with satan, because of their unbelief. Yet most believers in God, are actually worshipping satan himself, who is disquized as God, but they don't know this.

Peace.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

What is there to know about atheism? Atheists do not believe in God. Period, and nuff said.

To be fair, there's nothing I particularly disagree with there. Atheism is just a position of not believing in a God.

 

[mickiel]

All Atheists will get the shock of their lives when the truth is revealed lol

In my view, that future shock is reserved for both Theist and Atheist.

No one will be left out from the shock of the Truth. Because we all have been deceived.

Peace.

 

[Copernicus]

It fails with you, it susceeds with me, and inspires me on to more...

Which supports my earlier comments that you are basically having a debate with yourself. You use atheists as props in that debate, but you are really addressing your own inner atheist, who terrifies you so much that you cannot even think straight.

Atheist have cut themselves off from God, but don't understand they are being used by God to further the oppisition that God needs to exist. Atheism is created, preplanned oppisition, so God had to blind their minds to him, lest they believe.

I have to say that your version of God can't think straight either. If the Big Guy in the Sky is omniscient and omnipotent, then he does not need atheists to convince people that he exists. (Being omnipotent, he should not "need" anything at all.) And it is utterly absurd that any intelligent being would "blind minds" to his existence yet still hold it against them when they didn't believe in his existence. But I can see where that kind of God makes sense to a Mickiel.

Atheism is a wheel that God spins, it is he who is truly behind it. Their blindness to him, is proof of him. The power to cause unbelief, and belief as well, is his. So both sides of that coin is evidence that he exist.

:areyoucra

 

[Peacewise]

Does the father need his son to mow the lawns, or is he teaching the son a useful skill?

 

[Copernicus]

Does the father need his son to mow the lawns, or is he teaching the son a useful skill?

Fathers teach sons useful skills, and some fathers even need the kid to mow the lawn. Gods teach us nothing useful.

 

[jarofthoughts]

@ OP: Let me see if I get this straight...
You spew nonsense and you address none of the replies you get?
So, how is this a discussion?

Seems to me that if you are only interested in hearing your own voice you can do so without me.
*shrug*

Get well soon.

 

[mickiel]

Oh this is so funny I had to laugh. Get well soon. Man thats a good one.

I do hope I get well soon.

Peace.

 

[Peacewise]

Gods teach us nothing useful.

Speak for yourself rather than "us".