None have ever voiced such. And hence whatever we see might be mere projection.
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Atheists: A Question About Newborn Kittens.
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yep. No gods whatsoever.
Sure. So are.stones and clouds.
I mean it.
Atheism is very unremarkable. Although its existence in socially hostile environments may be less so.
I mean it.
Atheism is very unremarkable. Although its existence in socially hostile environments may be less so.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Not really. The fact that a person has to be introduced to the concept of God by another person proves God isn't around in any way and the fact that it requires convincing in order for a person to believe in one is proof of that.
Agnosticism suggests a possibility of God but in reality there is no possibility anywhere at all except for what goes on inside people's heads.
Secret Chief
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@Left Coast thinks that makes little sense (#28). OK, so do I. Only on an internet forum can a cloud be an atheist. Not in any dictionary, encyclopaedia or comic book.
You seem to be assuming that some form of ability to discern, choose or have awareness is necessary for atheism.
That is not the case. Atheism is not theism, nor is it skepticism. It is an absence, not a judgement call.
Edited to add: now, Agnosticism, that would require awareness and reaction to some form of god-concept. Rocks and newborns can't be agnostic. But they are atheistic.
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Heyo
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Depends on your definition of "god".
Do gods believe in "higher beings" (than themselves)?
What is higher than a cat?
Altfish
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I assume that all animals have no religion.
Heyo
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You should also make the control test and ask her if she's a theist.
Secret Chief
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Well it is a human concept.
Secret Chief
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Also agnostic, polytheist, apatheist, nontheist, pantheist. Let's not unreasonably restrict her responses.
Secret Chief
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A taller one.
I'll just ask her what her theistic position is. If she looks confused, we'll just conclude she's agnostic about theism.
Does that work?
Should that be "the" or "they"?
But you don't need to hold a position to be an atheist. Anyone who doesn't believe in any gods is an atheist.
Agnosticism isn't just "I don't know;" it's the positive assertion that the existence or non-existence of gods is unprovable.
No, a person can't be born agnostic, since agnosticism is a position.
They. I fixed it.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
My money's on apatheist.
Apparently this is a dispute for you to have with other atheists:
"Atheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about what a person believes. It is simply a rejection of the assertion that there are gods."
What is Atheism?
Atheism is one thing: A lack of belief in gods. It is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about a person.
www.atheists.org
My refrigerator has never rejected any assertion. It's not an atheist fridge. It's just a fridge.
I have to say, in this case I think @SalixIncendium has the more reasonable take on this question. I think it would be same with, say, Santa Claus. Until introduced to the notion, an infant has neither a belief nor a disbelief in Santa. There are those who would say that makes the infant aSanta, but I think that's two narrow a viewpoint. Until introduced to the subject, neither believer in or non-believer in accurately describes the infant's position.