God is responsible for being an absent God.
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Atheists: If God existed would God……
- Thread starter Trailblazer
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Who says?You have a good point.
The message of world unity applies to everyone.
The message about who God is also applies to everyone...
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I am 100% positive that God is real....
You don't think I am spending every waking hour on this forum just for fun do you?
I have so much money that I could be doing anything I want to do and never even spend it all....
Instead I am here with you.
ppp
Well-Known Member
@F1fan is not saying that God is responsible for human corruption. They are saying that God is responsible for his own immoral inaction. In much the same way that I would be morally responsible for my inaction were I to merely watch a child being molested and do nothing to stop it.
ppp
Well-Known Member
Yes.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I was not making a logical argument.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I do know, but how I know is not something you could ever understand.
IIRC he was in and out of prisons, having been kicked out of one country and then evicted by yet another. There were those who didn't particularly share his beliefs, or his station that he proclaimed for himself, or wanted him around....as I said, many wanted him dead for one reason or another....all "political" from what I could ascertain.
When I attempted to discuss this stuff with Trailblazer, I was accused of having gotten my info from a NON-Bahai site. I just couldn't win, no matter what, I guess
Of course.....something along the lines of why I couldn't understand God either, huh?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No guessing is involved, just knowledge of His Person and His Revelation coupled with a logical mind.
THAT is certainly an understatement!I was not making a logical argument.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Baha'u'llah.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
God is not responsible to humans for anything.
Been there, done that....ALL I could ever actually "prove" is that this Bahaullah guy really DID exist. Mebbie you'd have better luck with it
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
NO. Just ask my husband as he hears me screaming from the next room.
Only me, God and my husband know how much pain I am in...
but that does not mean I cannot have a little fun while I work.
Atheists are soooo much fun.
But I also like to eat and drink once in a while.
Right! To this God, we "humans" are nothing more than the ants are to a kid with his own little ant-farm. And if any of them píss him off, the kid "get's 'em with a stick...and if the whole bunch rise up in defiance, the kid then turns on the garden hose and DROWNS the lot of them in one fell swoop. Sound familiar?
ppp
Well-Known Member
It is interesting the way that you try to reconstruct what I say to fit into what you think you can object to. It would be lovely, ever so lovely, if you actually dealt with what was said, as opposed to what you choose to inject.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, it is not along those lines... It is along these lines.
“Be thankful to God for having enabled you to recognise His Cause. Whoever has received this blessing must, prior to his acceptance, have performed some deed which, though he himself was unaware of its character, was ordained by God as a means whereby he has been guided to find and embrace the Truth. As to those who have remained deprived of such a blessing, their acts alone have hindered them from recognising the truth of this Revelation. We cherish the hope that you, who have attained to this light, will exert your utmost to banish the darkness of superstition and unbelief from the midst of the people. May your deeds proclaim your faith and enable you to lead the erring into the paths of eternal salvation. The memory of this night will never be forgotten. May it never be effaced by the passage of time, and may its mention linger for ever on the lips of men.”
The Dawn-Breakers: Nabíl’s Narrative of the Early Days of the Bahá’í Revelation, p. 586
I don't know him. I have no reason to trust what he says. He has no authority beyond being an ordinary human.