Atheists: If God existed would God……

[Trailblazer]

I don't know why you should care, apart from scriptures. I probably wouldn't care if I was you.

Even apart from the scripture I should care because that is the right thing to do.
I need to put aside the past and not care if I ever got anything for myself.
Of course this is what the Baha'i Faith teaches as well, not to be selfish.

I realize now that I have been trying to detach by being angry because I could not stand to see him in agony, because I do care, but the nurse told me tonight that they found a new medication for him that is targeting his pain and he has been sleeping comfortably all day. This is new.

I have to live for the day I am in, moment to moment. I have no idea of what tomorrow will bring.

 

[Trailblazer]

Especially when it is your brother. That left a mark on you. I don't know specifically why this happened to you. How can I?

It happened because my brother is who he is. He never had many tests, he even said that, but he never grew much spiritually either. As much as I hate the tests I know they have helped me grow spiritually.

If you really want to know, because this world can be so bad sometimes, we have the opportunity to not be attached to this world. I don't think you are attached to this world. Sorry, but it is you that brought up scripture, not me.

It is fair game if I bring up the scripture.
Well I know that one reason this world is so bad is so we won't become attached to it, but there has never been a danger that I would be attached to this world. It is other people God needs to send these tests to, not me.
The only thing I am attached to is the cats, but the are not really a material thing, they are a creation of God.

 

[Trailblazer]

Tb would like to burn the Bible.

Oh, that's the person you were referring to on the phone. You said that a year ago, and she brought it up? Shame on her.

Over a year ago and she never forgot it.
I don't think the Bible should be burned, only shelved, since it as written for another dispensation, a dispensation that has long since been abrogated by the Revelation of Baha'u'llah.

 

[Trailblazer]

Aren't you curious as to why there's so many perceptions and everyone thinks they are the ones who have the truth?

The answer to that is very simple. Every person in the world has their own mind and their own perceptions.

Once people believe they have found the truth they stick with it unless some new information comes along, in which case they might change their mind.

 

[John53]

The answer to that is very simple. Every person in the world has their own mind and their own perceptions.

Once people believe they have found the truth they stick with it unless some new information comes along, in which case they might change their mind.

Probably true enough but I'm interested in why there are so many versions

 

[Aupmanyav]

I don't think the Bible should be burned, only shelved, since it as written for another dispensation, a dispensation that has long since been abrogated by the Revelation of Baha'u'llah.

Abrogation, that is a problem with Abrahamic relgions. Not like in Hinduism where the message is eternal and the only requirement is to be humane.

Atheists often are put into a position where they have something really hard to live with, and they have no source of inner consolation within themselves, and they are in a situation where there just seems a cold, pitiless universe not caring about them, it seems to them.

Atheist do not need false consolations or false assurances of a heavenly life after death. We face the situations on our own strength. We are not weak-kneed.

 

[Trailblazer]

Probably true enough but I'm interested in why there are so many versions

Because God reveals different versions in every age.

 

[Trailblazer]

Abrogation, that is a problem with Abrahamic relgions. Not like in Hinduism where the message is eternal and the only requirement is to be humane.Atheist do not need false consolations or false assurances of a heavenly life after death. We face the situations on our own strength.

There is only one spiritual message that is eternal, and it is the same in all the religions.
However, there is another message that is pertinent only to the age we live in, and the message for this age is world unity and the oneness of mankind.

 

[John53]

Because God reveals different versions in every age.

I'm living in about 1,000 ages then

 

[Aupmanyav]

.. and the message for this age is world unity and the oneness of mankind.

New message, ha ha. There is nothing new in the world, except claimants.

 

[samtonga43]

You are in no position to speak for me and tell me what I would like to do, but you do it anyway.

Did you not say that you would like to burn the Bible? Have you changed your mind?

 

[samtonga43]

I am connected through marriage and have lived with him for many years, but for the last 20 years I have been no more connected to him than I would be connected to a roommate. The point is that I am not emotionally or physically connected to him, we just lived in the same house.

People who are married and who live in the same house have a connection, Tb.
This is logical; to say otherwise is illogical.

 

[samtonga43]

Tb would like to burn the Bible.
Oh, that's the person you were referring to on the phone. You said that a year ago, and she brought it up? Shame on her.

Shame on any Bahai who would like to burn the Bible.

 

[Aupmanyav]

And then, talk of brotherhood and peace!

 

[LuisDantas]

There is only one spiritual message that is eternal, and it is the same in all the religions.

A pretty bold claim, In practice also one that can't be sustained without careful, deliberate restrictions to what should be considered a religion and what they actually say.

However, there is another message that is pertinent only to the age we live in, and the message for this age is world unity and the oneness of mankind.

Are you saying that it was not a proper message for some other time? Any ideas on why?

 

[samtonga43]

There is only one spiritual message that is eternal, and it is the same in all the religions.

What is this message?

 

[samtonga43]

You have seemed confused. However, I don't really know you except though a number of posts. I don't know why you seem so confused.

He doesn't seem at all confused to me; the exact opposite, in fact.

 

[samtonga43]

That's true. You are free to form your own opinion, John53. We all are. What we believe is overrated.

I am interested in your last sentence (my emphasis).
I'll 'do a Tb' and provide a definition :
If something or someone is overrated, that person or thing is considered to be better or more important than they really are:
In my opinion, she's a hugely overrated singer.
overrated

So... are you saying that your belief in MrB.s words is overrated?

 

[samtonga43]

Over a year ago and she never forgot it.
I don't think the Bible should be burned, only shelved, since it as written for another dispensation, a dispensation that has long since been abrogated by the Revelation of Baha'u'llah.

Abrogation, that is a problem with Abrahamic relgions. Not like in Hinduism where the message is eternal and the only requirement is to be humane.Atheist do not need false consolations or false assurances of a heavenly life after death. We face the situations on our own strength. We are not weak-kneed.

I believe that 'the message' is eternal in Christianity also, Aupmanyav.

 

[samtonga43]

And then, talk of brotherhood and peace!

Exactly. And this is why I found it so shocking to read that a Bahai wants to burn the Bible.