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Atheists in NC and SC plan first-ever convention
- Thread starter Archer
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Many Sages One Truth
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Good for them. The southern states need a non-conformist gathering such as this one.
Why? Is there an agenda or is it for a little feel good get together?
What does it serve?
Many Sages One Truth
Active Member
To me if it had no other reason then the non-conformity, that'd be good enough. The Bible belt needs some of that, it's too rigid.
Net really.
Many Sages One Truth
Active Member
I happen to come from the Bible belt and I think it is Do you know how hard it is to be a gay, Pagan-heretical Christian living in the South, plus that I'm male, and people there find homosexuality unmanly?
Draka
Wonder Woman
I would imagine for solidarity. To be able to see there are others like them. To know they are not alone. In states where the areas can be heavily Christian, one can feel rather alone or ganged-up on at times. To have a community and others to meet who think the same way and go through the same things can be reassuring. I don't believe there would be any "agenda" other than camaraderie. I mean, why do you think Pagans have large gatherings? We don't have any "agenda". Sometimes it's just nice to be in a group of others who are like minded without others around looking down their noses at you.
Many Sages One Truth
Active Member
Exactly, maybe when I get back down South I should organize a Pagan convention, of course, I have no idea how many would actually show up. In the South, conformity is a very real part of life, and people who are different are often too scared to express it
If by "agenda" you mean some sort of ulterior motive, then no, I don't think they have one.
However, the conference's literal agenda is online. It should give you some idea of the topics that will be covered: Carolinas Secular Leaders, Representatives and Activists Conference 2011
linwood
Well-Known Member
Many Sages One Truth
Active Member
If it was a gathering of fundamentalist Christians would Archer be as opposed? Or a gathering of people who support "traditional marriage"?
Joint initiatives is my issue it says agenda.
Thanks for the link Pengo.
I am not so foolish as to believe that their agenda may not be a bad thing either. Many times the non-secular and secular goals parallel each other.
Never said I was opposed did I? I was considering going thank you much. I just wanted some details.
Many Sages One Truth
Active Member
Hm well I may have misunderstood something in your posts
Could have been the user title. I honestly think human beings have many commonalities and just can't get over themselves many times to see this. Both the left and the right are to blame.
These can be ten differences and 990 commonalities but the focus is always on the ten.
I support gay marriage as long as it is not carried out is a Christian Church that goes by the name of Church.
I support equal rights for every human and that means the same standards for all people applying for a job. I personally do not care if the person I hire is gay or straight as long as they can do the job and make me the most money.
Many Sages One Truth
Active Member
Archer what if that particular church believes homosexuality is ok, then should they be allowed to marry gay people? Sorry, I just have to ask.
I'll be glad to take intellectual issue with this.
IMO, you can't be implicit atheist has have conference like this. We can have this debate all day long as far as I'm concerned if there is that sort of atheist who wishes to argue in that vein given agenda being put forth.
For explicit atheism, the agenda is interesting. It confirms what I think is known more or less but is either denied or kept on down low, that atheists have an agenda with their conceptual framework.
I also think given other thread on this site, would atheist type have any issue if say I posed as atheist and went to this conference with pretty much sole intention to report the 'ridiculous' things they did there? Perhaps 'ridiculous' is too strong of a word, but point is if I went there with idea of, "my only reason for really being here is to expose what you all are doing here, with spin I have on this sort of stuff. But while here, I'll pretend to be all for what you are doing in this conference." Would that sit completely well with you, or would feel my deception is unwarranted, unwelcome and ought not to be allowed.
For sake of further discussion, let me merely quote directly from the agenda put forth on brochure for the conference:
(underlined emphasis mine)
Emphasis here is not mine, and wondering if that sounds even a little dogmatic, even ironic given what rest of the statement is saying.
IMO, you can't be implicit atheist has have conference like this. We can have this debate all day long as far as I'm concerned if there is that sort of atheist who wishes to argue in that vein given agenda being put forth.
For explicit atheism, the agenda is interesting. It confirms what I think is known more or less but is either denied or kept on down low, that atheists have an agenda with their conceptual framework.
I also think given other thread on this site, would atheist type have any issue if say I posed as atheist and went to this conference with pretty much sole intention to report the 'ridiculous' things they did there? Perhaps 'ridiculous' is too strong of a word, but point is if I went there with idea of, "my only reason for really being here is to expose what you all are doing here, with spin I have on this sort of stuff. But while here, I'll pretend to be all for what you are doing in this conference." Would that sit completely well with you, or would feel my deception is unwarranted, unwelcome and ought not to be allowed.
For sake of further discussion, let me merely quote directly from the agenda put forth on brochure for the conference:
(underlined emphasis mine)
Emphasis here is not mine, and wondering if that sounds even a little dogmatic, even ironic given what rest of the statement is saying.
Christian + marriage = man and woman. Paul covers this and actually suggests that marriage is not good but better than fornication.
I do take issue with pretty much all of the denominations for one thing or another because they tend to pick and choose what parts of the bible they want to believe.
This thread is not really about that though and it is not about my views and prejudices either. It is about the conference.