Atheists only please: Objections to Theism

[AfterGlow]

That seems a British usage of the word....do you swing that way?

I'm just using the English language, the onus of interpretation is on the reader.

 

[lunakilo]

Some strike me as better than others. I favor personal liberty, comportment with science, peacefulness, & allowing consumption of pork products & shellfish.

Oh, yes. Definetly remember the bacon

 

[lunakilo]

I am more concerned with the effects theism has on society.
People can be as irrational as they want as long as they keep it to them selves, but when people start hitting other people in the head with their religion I don't like it.
I dislike it when people do things because their religion says they should nomatter if it makes sense or not.

Mostly I dislike proselytizing and intollerant religions.

To me religion, or the lack of same, is a private thing. I wouldn't shove my non-religion in a religious persons face if he didn't shove his religion in mine.
I love to talk about religion though, I find it fascinating, and would talk about it wiyh anyone who would like to talk to me about it.

I like hearing about other peoples beliefs and about how they see the world.
And every once in a while some peoples beliefs actually kind of makes sense to me.

 

[Dan4reason]

I'm interested in the nature of people's objections to theism, obviously there won't be a consensus as everybody thinks differently, I'm just as interested in the range of opinions as in the opinions themselves.

To make it easier I'll outline a few specific questions;

Is the basis of your objection based principally on rational rejection, or are you more concerned with the effects theism has on society?

Do you consider all theistic belief systems as equally redundant?

Do you consider all theistic beliefs systems as equally damaging?

Would you attempt to debate a theist if that theist kept their beliefs mostly to themselves i.e. didn't proselytise, was tolerant of atheism and other forms of theism?

Thanks

Religion is simply a collection of mythology, superstition, ideology, and dogma that people have trust in. I see no reason to trust these at all because they have no credibility at all, and no evidence. If we want to learn about how we all got here, we should use reason and science to find out.

Having faith does have one other down side because people are believing things which may not be true and act on them, may have less tolerance for unbelievers, etc. However, the ideologies they believe may also demand that they be kinder and more compassionate then they would have been.

 

[dolly]

Is the basis of your objection based principally on rational rejection, or are you more concerned with the effects theism has on society?

My objection is primarily a rational one, though I do disprove of the effects it has on society.

Do you consider all theistic belief systems as equally redundant?

No - some are more illogical than others.

Do you consider all theistic beliefs systems as equally damaging?

No - some are worse than others. Even in a particular religion, some denominations/minor sects are worse than others.

Would you attempt to debate a theist if that theist kept their beliefs mostly to themselves i.e. didn't proselytise, was tolerant of atheism and other forms of theism?

If they wanted to debate, I would.

 

[Nooj]

Is the basis of your objection based principally on rational rejection, or are you more concerned with the effects theism has on society?

My objection? I feel we've started off on the wrong foot because I don't really object to theism. I don't believe theism is true, but that's something different from objection.

Would you attempt to debate a theist if that theist kept their beliefs mostly to themselves i.e. didn't proselytise, was tolerant of atheism and other forms of theism?

I don't try to deconvert people if that's what you're asking. But I might debate people if I find their views interesting.

 

[Yerda]

I don't really object to theism.

 

[Hoz365]

first post!

Is the basis of your objection based principally on rational rejection, or are you more concerned with the effects theism has on society?

Rational Rejection: I do not believe in any religions past or present. nor do i believe any explanation of a god I've heard so far.

I don't know how i got here, but i wont listen to circular logic to give me the answer.

Do you consider all theistic belief systems as equally redundant?

All theistic belief systems are attempts to explain things that were once unknown or still are unknown.

since I believe that none of the religions are correct, by default i must believe them all redundant.

Do you consider all theistic beliefs systems as equally damaging?

in short, no.

in long...
terrorism
it is not the system of belief that makes it damaging. its the type of people who are drawn to it. If for example Osama Bin Laden had tried to recruit Buddhists I doubt that his terrorist group would have posed a serious threat.

the truth is, even if you take religion out of the equation, crazy people will continue to do crazy things. religion just makes it easier for crazies to control other crazies.

science
Religion has hindered science in the past, but now that the dark ages are over and religion is no longer in charge I don't believe this is the case any more (though the potential is still there).

Even though scientists are mostly atheists now, they are still held back now instead of by religion by themselves. new "crazy" theory's are shot down before being tested because it doesn't follow mainstream convention. I abhor this most about the scientific community.

Would you attempt to debate a theist if that theist kept their beliefs mostly to themselves i.e. didn't proselytise, was tolerant of atheism and other forms of theism?

I am always ready for debate. but i rarely finish one because of the issues you outline here. (not that it would be possible to finish one)

Thanks

You're welcome. If you have any other Questions let me know!