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Is religious belief and dogma a necessity?
I've done extensive study in the psychology of belief, so I know more about why theists believe in what they do than they do. They know what they believe, but they can't explain why they believe it.
You said you weren't defensive three times.
This is a debate forum. You know this. If you make logical errors they get pointed out. That's what happens on debate forums.
I critique poor reasoning. It is a debate forum. It's what happens.
It's odd that you post all hours of the days, and oppose anyone who doesn't accept your religious views. You make untrue claims consistently, and refuse to acknowledge more knowledgable people explain it to you.
I'm also a skilled cyclist. Skills are learned, practiced, and tested. There is no arrogance in acknowledging an ability.Skilled thinkers? Do you mean people like you? You don't think too highly of yourselfo you?
It is incredible that anyone would even post this on a forum, as if arrogance is something to be proud of.
What makes you a more skilled thinker than anyone else? Did you go to college and get a degree in skilled thinking?
But you said you know God exists. Knowledge is verifiable and sharable. So were you mistaken in your claim that you know God exists? Or just deceiving yourself, and saying it outloud so you can deceive yourself more deeply? Do you even introspect to ponder your own thinking, and correct errors?
I can and there is a long list.
I know and that is what happens and that is why I am constantly pointing out the logical errors atheists make.
I critique poor reasoning. It is a debate forum. It's what happens
That is psychological projection if I have ever seen it. Show me where I ever opposed anyone who doesn't accept my religious views. Citation needed.
More knowledge people? What do you have knowledge of and where did you get it?
More projection. I already told you I am not trying to win any debates and I explained why I am here
Maybe you are a skilled cyclist but you don't know anything about God.
Correction: Some atheists point out what they believe is irrational about my beliefs. The only skill you have is in criticizing me, you are very skilled at that. The only reason I reply is for the sake of justice, because criticizing people just because you have a personal opinion about them is unjust. Nothing you say has any proof to back it up. It is ALL personal opinions.
No, knowledge of God is not verifiable or shareable. It has to be earned by anyone who wants it and it is hard work.
Do you even introspect to ponder your own thinking, and correct errors, or is your life spent correcting the errors you believe other people make? Do you ever make any errors or are you infallible?
You post your beliefs and claims, and other members offer criticism of your thinking process, which is highly flawed. You make many, many mistakes, as is detailed.
Your persistence is interesting. If you don't intend to prove your claims are true, and win the debates, then explain your persistence. So you don't think you are correct?
The rules of logic are available for anyone to understand. You either don't understand them or deny they apply to you.
That sounds like what a person does to create a fantasy for themselves.
Yes, for many decades. This is is why I'm not convinced religious claims are true, and that includes yours. You make the same mistakes as any other theist.
Now you are upset and being insulting. Is there no quote you can share for insulting people?
No, other members do not do what you do. They disagree with my beliefs but they don't criticize me.
Your thinking is illogical, in my opinion, but don't feel too bad because Imo almost all atheists think illogically, and I have pointed out why and explained why Imo they are illogical. Unlike you, I don't tell people they are illogical without backing it up with the reasons why..
I know I am correct about God and Baha'u'llah, but I am not correct about everything else. I make many mistakes but I realize it, try to learn from it, and move on.
The rules of logic are available for anyone to understand. You either don't understand them or deny they apply to you.
No, that is what is taught in the Baha’i Faith and it is logical and reasonable, which you might realize IF you understood what I meant.
All religious claims are not the same. To assume that would be the fallacy of hasty generalization.
I was not upset. That was just me speaking for how I feel, it was not directed at you, but I now realize I was wrong to say that because of how it came across so I apologize. We all make mistake and I can see when I am wrong.
As you said, "enjoins" is not "expects".
The 10 commandments (which are really only 9 and are not really commands).
She's actually not like the majority of theists in RF though. For the majority of theists in here that I've encountered, even if they don't have a good argument for God, they're at least honest and can admit that they believe that God exist based on faith. And obviously, majority of them don't deny something they said in earlier posts, whereas I've seen Trailblazer fully deny saying things even after I posted exactly what she said from her earlier posts.
"Expected" by whom? You? No one else is required to abide by YOUR requirements for evidence or proof. They are only required to offer their evidence and their reasons for why they felt that evidence rose to the level of proof.
Again, no one is required to abide by what YOU consider rational thinking. Your rationale is based on your truth paradigm. Their rationale is based on their truth paradigm. Yours does not trump anyone else's. Yours is not the yardstick by which all truth and logical reasoning must be measured. And to expect that it should be is highly irrational, asit would be impossible for anyone else to meet this expectation.
If you were such a savvy thinker, you would have realized that your own thinking (via these expectations) is irrational, and unworkable. It was never anyone else's job to overcome your defenses, or to meet your expectations regarding what is evidence and what is proof. You are not the standard-bearer for either.
It is neither ethical nor honorable to presume yourself to be the standard bearer for evidence and proof. It is neither ethical nor honorable to expect other people to take on the task of overcomming your ignorance and bias (because you don't see them as being ignorance and bias).
Same goes for atheist's and their idiotic, baseless, an irrational presumptions and claims. Welcome to the human condition.
They get frustrated by the insane insistence that YOU are the definer of logic and reason, and that they must meet your standards or be labeled irrational. Which is an understandable frustration, especially as it's so hypocritical.
And your ARE learning??? All I'm seeing is you dismissing someone else truth claims because they didn't meet your standards for evidence of proof. I don't see you even considering anyone else's standards for evidence or proof. You simply auto-defend, and learn nothing. Exactly the same as you accuse others of doing.
Objectivism is a myth-based ideology, but you don't understand this. And you will never understand it so long as you continue to auto-defend it instead of trying to see it the way some others can.
What a load of egocentric nonsense.
