Ballot Drop Boxes Set on Fire in Oregon and Washington

[Wandering Monk]

I hope the perps are caught. I wonder if/how the people who dropped their ballots their will be made whole if their ballot was destroyed and not legible?

Fires set in drop boxes destroy hundreds of ballots in Washington and damage 3 in Oregon

Incendiary devices have been set off at two ballot drop boxes — one in Portland, Oregon, and another in nearby Vancouver, Washington — in what one official called a “direct attack on democracy."

apnews.com

 

[Altfish]

I can't believe how disorganised elections are in the US.

 

[Shaul]

Which lends support to the position that ballot drop boxes should be in secure locations.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I can't believe how disorganised elections are in the US.

This is a brand new problem for us. I do not think that this has ever happened before in Washington state. One thing to remember, there are cameras everywhere today and it is quite possible that the perpetrators are on camera.

At any rate people that voted can probably vote again. Though who one voted for is not tracked a the fact that one voted is tracked. Names and signatures are checked when the ballots are turned in. Once verified the vote is separated from the envelope. It is not looked at. They are stored separately. I voted last week and since for the first time in a long time I did it from my home mailbox i was a bit concerned. So two days later I checked the website and it confirmed that my vote had been received and counted.

At the Washington site that was attacked they know the last time that votes were picked up there. The state is allowing those people to vote again. This does not allow unregistered voters to vote, they will already have to be registered to vote a second time. Nor does it allow double voting. As I said, they check and verify each ballot. and make a note of who voted or not. If someone tries to vote twice they will be caught.

Arson destroys hundreds of ballots inside a WA drop box • Washington State Standard

State and federal authorities are investigating a deliberately set fire that destroyed ballots inside a drop box in southwest Washington.

washingtonstatestandard.com

 

[Subduction Zone]

Which lends support to the position that ballot drop boxes should be in secure locations.

Why? This is a very minor inconvenience. A few hundred ballots in a state will not make a difference, especially since people can vote again if their ballot was destroyed.

 

[Revoltingest]

I can't believe how disorganised elections are in the US.

The real problem is that traitors
(ie, Magas) are so organized.

 

[Altfish]

This is a brand new problem for us. I do not think that this has ever happened before in Washington state. One thing to remember, there are cameras everywhere today and it is quite possible that the perpetrators are on camera.

At any rate people that voted can probably vote again. Though who one voted for is not tracked a the fact that one voted is tracked. Names and signatures are checked when the ballots are turned in. Once verified the vote is separated from the envelope. It is not looked at. They are stored separately. I voted last week and since for the first time in a long time I did it from my home mailbox i was a bit concerned. So two days later I checked the website and it confirmed that my vote had been received and counted.

At the Washington site that was attacked they know the last time that votes were picked up there. The state is allowing those people to vote again. This does not allow unregistered voters to vote, they will already have to be registered to vote a second time. Nor does it allow double voting. As I said, they check and verify each ballot. and make a note of who voted or not. If someone tries to vote twice they will be caught.

Arson destroys hundreds of ballots inside a WA drop box • Washington State Standard

State and federal authorities are investigating a deliberately set fire that destroyed ballots inside a drop box in southwest Washington.

washingtonstatestandard.com

In the UK our 'absent ballot' system is the 'Postal Vote'.
About 3-weeks before an election you receive the ballot papers, you fill them in, put them inside two envelopes (one inside the other) and put them into any postbox. The postal votes are collated and added to the in-person votes after the election has finished.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Which lends support to the position that ballot drop boxes should be in secure locations.

No doubt. Ballot boxes are the absolute stupidest thing in the first place to place at random places where they can be compromised.

If you want to vote, go to the polling station.

 

[Pogo]

This is a brand new problem for us. I do not think that this has ever happened before in Washington state. One thing to remember, there are cameras everywhere today and it is quite possible that the perpetrators are on camera.

At any rate people that voted can probably vote again. Though who one voted for is not tracked a the fact that one voted is tracked. Names and signatures are checked when the ballots are turned in. Once verified the vote is separated from the envelope. It is not looked at. They are stored separately. I voted last week and since for the first time in a long time I did it from my home mailbox i was a bit concerned. So two days later I checked the website and it confirmed that my vote had been received and counted.

At the Washington site that was attacked they know the last time that votes were picked up there. The state is allowing those people to vote again. This does not allow unregistered voters to vote, they will already have to be registered to vote a second time. Nor does it allow double voting. As I said, they check and verify each ballot. and make a note of who voted or not. If someone tries to vote twice they will be caught.

Arson destroys hundreds of ballots inside a WA drop box • Washington State Standard

State and federal authorities are investigating a deliberately set fire that destroyed ballots inside a drop box in southwest Washington.

washingtonstatestandard.com

Apparently, the boxes were on camera and they know when they were last emptied and people know where they put their ballots.
The boards of elections have already notified people to come in and get new ballots.
For the paranoid, they are counted against a list so they can't vote twice.
It is a bunch of work added, but not any sort of major problem except the attitude that doing this was in any way reasonable.

 

[Secret Chief]

In the UK our 'absent ballot' system is the 'Postal Vote'.
About 3-weeks before an election you receive the ballot papers, you fill them in, put them inside two envelopes (one inside the other) and put them into any postbox. The postal votes are collated and added to the in-person votes after the election has finished.

Ah, but the post gets intercepted by Marxists.

 

[Secret Chief]

I hope the perps are caught. I wonder if/how the people who dropped their ballots their will be made whole if their ballot was destroyed and not legible?

Fires set in drop boxes destroy hundreds of ballots in Washington and damage 3 in Oregon

Incendiary devices have been set off at two ballot drop boxes — one in Portland, Oregon, and another in nearby Vancouver, Washington — in what one official called a “direct attack on democracy."

apnews.com

Well they won't be needed again if democracy is made illegal come January.

 

[Pogo]

In the UK our 'absent ballot' system is the 'Postal Vote'.
About 3-weeks before an election you receive the ballot papers, you fill them in, put them inside two envelopes (one inside the other) and put them into any postbox. The postal votes are collated and added to the in-person votes after the election has finished.

Yeah, and you still have post-boxes in lots of places, we don't these are just postboxes with different labels, you can also drop your ballot into any post-box if you want, it just takes a circuitous route to get to the same place.

US mail is sorted in large stations often many miles away from any local post office, If I mail a letter to my neighbor, it goes about 100 miles to the sort office and then comes back to the local Post office the next day for delivery hopefully. On the other hand, mail from my brother 3000 miles away takes maybe a day longer.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Which lends support to the position that ballot drop boxes should be in secure locations.

I see no problem with doing so.

 

[Pogo]

No doubt. Ballot boxes are the absolute stupidest thing in the first place to place at random places where they can be compromised.

If you want to vote, go to the polling station.

They are not in random places, they are in places that many people pass by so as to make returns convenient. Not everybody has a secure mailbox but many often go by say the town hall and can drop it off when they go by whether the town hall is open or not.
I will be working the entire day Nov. 5 so in order to vote, I have to use an alternate methods.

Just because you are too stupid to see why they are a good idea doesn't mean the idea is stupid.

 

[Twilight Hue]

They are not in random places, they are in places that many people pass by so as to make returns convenient. Not everybody has a secure mailbox but many often go by say the town hall and can drop it off when they go by whether the town hall is open or not.
I will be working the entire day Nov. 5 so in order to vote, I have to use an alternate methods.

Just because you are too stupid to see why they are a good idea doesn't mean the idea is stupid.

Well givin the ballot boxes were actually set on fire begs the question as to who is really the stupid one here.

 

[Kathryn]

I can't believe how disorganised elections are in the US.

Well, the US is huge with a wide range of voting styles and expectations.

 

[Pogo]

Well givin the ballot boxes were actually set on fire begs the question as to who is really the stupid one here.

The people who set them on fire?

Or can you tell us why you think that messing with elections is a good thing?

Let me guess, you put M-80s in mailboxes on Halloween and thought it was funny.

 

[fantome profane]

Well givin the ballot boxes were actually set on fire begs the question as to who is really the stupid one here.

1. The person or persons who set the fire are the stupid ones.

2. I don't think you are using the phrase "begs the question" correctly.

 

[Kathryn]

1. The person or persons who set the fire are the stupid ones.

2. I don't think you are using the phrase "begs the question" correctly.

You're double posting and heck I maybe too for all I know.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I see no problem with doing so.

They generally already are in secure areas. Well lit and probably on video. A police state should not be necessary to protect our right to vote. The few people that were affected can vote again.