Baltimore police charged in Freddy Gray death

[Wirey]

6 Baltimore police to be charged in Freddie Gray death - World - CBC News

They executed a search warrant against a policeman yesterday, and now this.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

I doubt they'll be found guilty.

 

[Mycroft]

6 Baltimore police to be charged in Freddie Gray death - World - CBC News

They executed a search warrant against a policeman yesterday, and now this.

Perhaps you should launch an inq-wirey.

Hue hue I make laughs.

 

[Revoltingest]

I doubt they'll be found guilty.

If they get off, there'll be a whole lotta Korean store owners who'll have their places looted by 'protesters'.
These cops should definitely be charged, & there should be convictions based upon the evidence I've heard so far.

Interesting item which points to how corrupt cops are in general.....
Their union says they're innocent.
It's not just a few bad apples....it's most of them.
Sure, sure....most of them likely aren't such violent thugs, but most of'm will tolerate the thugs.

 

[Skwim]

Regardless of the outcome one can only hope that justices is served. And whatever the outcome I can envisage some of the black youth of Baltimore finding it an excuse to commit more mayhem.

 

[freethinker44]

I have to say, I was genuinely surprised to hear this. This is a huge step in the right direction. I saw a few more stories, including this one, on Facebook today where officers were charged with crimes that I have no doubt they would have gotten away with a year ago. I'm still skeptical about a conviction, but that they are at least being charged is major progress (which is kind of sad when you think about it, that being charged with crimes that were witnessed by multiple people and have multiple videos with multiple angles is considered major progress instead of the standard).

 

[ShivaFan]

I don't trust this STATE'S ATTORNEY to be fair and unbiased at all. She strikes me as a politically motivated ideologue aligned with a preset narrative and likes to throw out the "no justice, no peace" threats in public to favor the mob instead of justice or peace, is only interested in "easing the riots" as some hero but not sure if this is only going to embolden the thugs more or not.

I heard she is an Obamanist, on the job only four months, and it is being reported she has heavy links to getting donations from the leftist lawyer dude who now just so happens representing the Gray family.

We were told the "facts" and supporting evidence would be presented to the public, instead she said no evidence would given to the public but the "facts" are "yadda, yadda", she kept yelling the no seatbelt thing about not restrained (no seat belt) while at the same yelling he was retrained by cuffs and legs, claims he was purposely denied medical help but showed no facts supporting that, says this is murder or something by "no seat belt". She never said anything about "rough ride" so I doubt there is any evidence for that. Again, this time the real facts are being hidden from us probably to support an Obamanist agenda to nationalize the police and I doubt this entire assumption and her antic.

I say she is Angela Davis "lite" and she has an agenda and I doubt her professionalism. She seems like another big government "fast and furious" Holder type.

I will fight this agenda by the totalitarian left to nationalize the police. There is corruption in law enforcement at such levels, she is probably an example of that. We know less, not more, now the political agenda and coverup starts even more. I think we are turning into Zimbabwe and run by despots and the mob.

 

[Nietzsche]

I know why they're going for 2nd Degree Murder(shoot high so a lesser charge has a better chance of sticking), but I sincerely doubt this would qualify as 2nd Degree murder. Manslaughter is much more apt.

 

[Nietzsche]

I don't trust this STATE'S ATTORNEY to be fair and unbiased at all. She strikes me as a politically motivated ideologue aligned with a preset narrative and likes to throw out the "no justice, no peace" threats in public to favor the mob instead of justice or peace, is only interested in "easing the riots" as some hero but not sure if this is only going to embolden the thugs more or not..

I've got a lot of "Insider"(if you can call it that) information about the legal system through my grandfather & father(detective for 30 years on former, 20yr beat cop latter). The State Attorney is extremely rarely on the side of the officers, especially regarding a case like this, where the question of just how responsible the officers are for his death. The State Attorney(and most govt-attorneys in general) loathe to deal with police due to their(the police) generally screwing up their cases.

 

[Wirey]

If they get off, there'll be a whole lotta Korean store owners who'll have their places looted by 'protesters'.
These cops should definitely be charged, & there should be convictions based upon the evidence I've heard so far.

Interesting item which points to how corrupt cops are in general.....
Their union says they're innocent.
It's not just a few bad apples....it's most of them.
Sure, sure....most of them likely aren't such violent thugs, but most of'm will tolerate the thugs.

The union has to say their innocent. They're responsible to pony up the dough for the defense lawyer.

 

[Skwim]

I have to say, I was genuinely surprised to hear this. This is a huge step in the right direction.

Why? You imply that if the cause of death was not found to be police related it wouldn't be a step in the right direction. Your bias is showing, like big time.

I know why they're going for 2nd Degree Murder(shoot high so a lesser charge has a better chance of sticking), but I sincerely doubt this would qualify as 2nd Degree murder. Manslaughter is much more apt.

I'm thinking it will be negligent homicide.

 

[Revoltingest]

The union has to say their innocent. They're responsible to pony up the dough for the defense lawyer.

Their claim is a choice, one which evidences the blue wall.
So many of the cases where cops commit crimes are surrounded with cover-ups.

 

[freethinker44]

Why? You imply that if the cause of death was not found to be police related it wouldn't be a step in the right direction. Your bias is showing, like big time.

I'm speaking in general here. They may or may not be found guilty, but it's a step in the right direction because they will go to trial instead of their friends and coworkers investigating them and finding they've done nothing wrong. It's a step in the right direction because they have to go through the same legal process they subject every other American to. That's all I expect, not special treatment or a lynch mob, I just want them to be held to the same standards as everyone else, the same standards that they are paid to enforce.

 

[Wirey]

I'm speaking in general here. They may or may not be found guilty, but it's a step in the right direction because they will go to trial instead of their friends and coworkers investigating them and finding they've done nothing wrong. It's a step in the right direction because they have to go through the same legal process they subject every other American to. That's all I expect, not special treatment or a lynch mob, I just want them to be held to the same standards as everyone else, the same standards that they are paid to enforce.

Now, who can argue with that? I'll bet someone will!

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

In general, I feel everyone on both sides just need to be more "aware" and, sort of "prepared" for these types of situations.

The police need to focus on remaining impartial, getting the job done with the least amount of force applied - at the very least no show of undue force - and just be especially cognizant of a suspects race. Not because I believe anyone deserves partial treatment, but the results of even possibly being seen as "picking on" minorities has (what should be by now) obvious consequences.

And then there are the people - when an officer asks you to jump, you don't necessarily say "how high?", but you also don't antagonize them - don't try and **** them off, don't be an ******* - just get through the ordeal and if you've truly done nothing wrong, you probably have nothing to hide or worry about.

Recently it seems as though the police in these high-profile cases tend to be the ones who went overboard, and not necessarily with much negative input from the supposed "perpetrator" (my mind goes, specifically, to the 12 year old boy shot by a police officer in a park over holding a toy gun - when it comes to 12 year olds, shooting first and asking questions later is never going to work out for you). But yeah - I feel everyone just needs to remain cognizant of the negative possibilities and do everything possible to mitigate them.

 

[freethinker44]

Now, who can argue with that? I'll bet someone will!

People already argue that police can't do their job if they are expected to follow laws.

 

[Skwim]

I'm speaking in general here. They may or may not be found guilty, but it's a step in the right direction because they will go to trial instead of their friends and coworkers investigating them and finding they've done nothing wrong. It's a step in the right direction because they have to go through the same legal process they subject every other American to. That's all I expect, not special treatment or a lynch mob, I just want them to be held to the same standards as everyone else, the same standards that they are paid to enforce.

But they wouldn't be going to trial if the corner's finding had not been homicide or any other finding pointing to culpability. Your presumption here is that no matter what they may have done or not done a trial is the best way to get to the truth. Sorry, but that's not the way our judicial system works.

 

[freethinker44]

But they wouldn't be going to trial if the corner's finding had not been homicide or any other finding pointing to culpability. Your presumption here is that no matter what they may have done or not done a trial is the best way to get to the truth. Sorry, but that's not the way our judicial system works.

That's complete BS, if it was anyone other than a cop we would be outraged they weren't immediately arrested and charged with assault and then manslaughter, at a minimum, a when he died.

I like how you say "Sorry, but that's not the way our judicial system works" when that's exactly how it worked for Freddie Gray. What was he doing wrong? Nothing, but he took off so the cop assumed he was guilty of something and now he's dead. "Oh, but he fled from the police" BULL. Running from police isn't illegal if the cop doesn't have a reasonable suspicion to detain you, and last I checked making eye contact wasn't a reasonable suspicion.

 

[Skwim]

That's complete BS, if it was anyone other than a cop we would be outraged they weren't immediately arrested and charged with assault and then manslaughter, at a minimum, a when he died.

I like how you say "Sorry, but that's not the way our judicial system works" when that's exactly how it worked for Freddie Gray. What was he doing wrong? Nothing, but he took off so the cop assumed he was guilty of something and now he's dead. "Oh, but he fled from the police" BULL. Running from police isn't illegal if the cop doesn't have a reasonable suspicion to detain you, and last I checked making eye contact wasn't a reasonable suspicion.

Obviously you're impervious to reason or rational thought and prefer to wallow in bias. Good bye.

 

[freethinker44]

Obviously you're impervious to reason or rational thought and prefer to wallow in bias. Good bye.

Did I just inspire a rage quit? Cha-ching, argument won.