Baptized into the Name

[Reggie Miller]

As was mine. But we did not go from a Christian church to a Catholic church. For me I went from a Methodist Christian church to a Catholic Christian church.

What's a Catholic Christian church if it is different from a Catholic Church?

 

[Fool]

What's a Catholic Christian church if it is different from a Catholic Church?

the catholic church is mentioned by paul as babylon, all her offspring are harlots. all who practice idolatry are abominations. idolatry = abomination.


idolatry is never, ever condone towards any thing, or anyone exclusive of anyone, or any thing else.

 

[Spideymon77]

Satan is also called Son in the bible

Could also mean Satan's son o.o

 

[pearl]

What's a Catholic Christian church if it is different from a Catholic Church?

My point was simply that they are all Christian. Unfortunately some denominations refuse to acknowledge that fact even though they lack a Christian history prior to the 16th cent.

 

[Reggie Miller]

the catholic church is mentioned by paul as babylon, all her offspring are harlots. all who practice idolatry are abominations. idolatry = abomination.


idolatry is never, ever condone towards any thing, or anyone exclusive of anyone, or any thing else.

Not what I asked.

 

[Katzpur]

It is the Trinitarian formula that is used in the Catholic Church and, I think all denominations except for the Mormon Church. The other stipulation besides the Trinitarian formula, water must be used. If one were to convert to the Catholic Church after having been baptized their baptism is valid, one baptism for the forgiveness of sin.

Mormons baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, too.

 

[Reggie Miller]

My point was simply that they are all Christian. Unfortunately some denominations refuse to acknowledge that fact even though they lack a Christian history prior to the 16th cent.

Okay. I had just never heard of the "Catholic Christian Church" denomination, if there is one.

I agree that all churches that teach at least the New Testament with no additional books (Book of Mormon, for example) are Christian.

 

[Fool]

Okay. I had just never heard of the "Catholic Christian Church" denomination, if there is one.

I agree that all churches that teach at least the New Testament with no additional books (Book of Mormon, for example) are Christian.

you mean christian idolatory are those who worship a personality, a beast

 

[Katzpur]

It skirts by saying that Jesus is the Name being baptized into. You could view that as being commissioned by Jesus to be baptized into another name.

What on earth are you trying to get at?

 

[Katzpur]

Okay. I had just never heard of the "Catholic Christian Church" denomination, if there is one.

I agree that all churches that teach at least the New Testament with no additional books (Book of Mormon, for example) are Christian.

So believing in Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the redeemer of all who will acknowledge Him as such, and living a life focused on being His disciple are apparently insufficient to be considered a Christian. I'll bet Jesus Christ is shaking His head over that one.

 

[Reggie Miller]

you mean christian idolatory are those who worship a personality, a beast

There is no such thing as "Christian idolatry." The two words contradict each other.

I would appreciate it if you would kindly bug out of this conversation. Thank you.

 

[Reggie Miller]

So believing in Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the redeemer of all who will acknowledge Him as such, and living a life focused on being His disciple are apparently insufficient to be considered a Christian. I'll bet Jesus Christ is shaking His head over that one.

What on Earth are you talking about? I never even hinted at that.

 

[Kemosloby]

What on earth are you trying to get at?

Looking at how they word the baptism so that it's not clear if you're being baptized into the name Jesus Christ. For instance. they say baptized into the name of the Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost...compared to the Apostles who seem to say Baptism is all about the name of Jesus.

Such as this:
The Holy Spirit Received at Ephesus
…Paul explained: “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the One coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” 5On hearing this,they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.6And when Paul laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.…

But they leave the door open by not naming names, for concerns such as this:

2 Cor 11:3 New International Version
But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.

 

[Fool]

There is no such thing as "Christian idolatry." The two words contradict each other.

I would appreciate it if you would kindly bug out of this conversation. Thank you.

um, no idolatry is to anything or anyone exclusive of another.

if God created all things, then why deify/demonize one above/below another?


isaiah 66:2-3 exemplifies the odious nature of idolizing

 

[Reggie Miller]

um, no idolatry is to anything or anyone exclusive of another.

if God created all things, then why deify/demonize one above/below another?


isaiah 66:2-3 exemplifies the odious nature of idolizing

You have no idea of what you are talking about.

 

[David1967]

The OP is rather bizarre since I do believe most people, obviously including Catholics, well know who is being referred to by the use of the word "Son".

If I am not mistaken , it seems that Kemosloby comes from a "Oneness" type denomination such as United Pentecostal, or Apostolic. They believe that the name of the Father is Jesus. The name of the Holy Spirit is Jesus and the Name of the Son is Jesus. Otherwise they are all the same individual. Correct me if I'm wrong Kemo.

 

[Katzpur]

What on Earth are you talking about? I never even hinted at that.

Maybe I misunderstood you then. When I read the post below, I assumed you do not consider Mormons to be Christians, even though they believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the redeemer of mankind, and are focused on living by Jesus Christ's example. If that is not what you were saying, I apologize.

I agree that all churches that teach at least the New Testament with no additional books (Book of Mormon, for example) are Christian.

 

[Reggie Miller]

Maybe I misunderstood you then. When I read the post below, I assumed you do not consider Mormons to be Christians, even though they believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the redeemer of mankind, and are focused on living by Jesus Christ's example. If that is not what you were saying, I apologize.

I have some good friends who are Mormons. However, I do not recommend Mormon teaching. I have shown Mormons how the teaching of the their "extra" books contradicts the teaching of Jesus directly. They were shocked. One of them eventually became a Protestant.

Basically, Joseph Smith, attempted to perfect Christianity. But he made grave errors in his doctrinal reasoning.

 

[Katzpur]

I have some good friends who are Mormons. However, I do not recommend Mormon teaching. I have shown Mormons how the teaching of the their "extra" books contradicts the teaching of Jesus directly. They were shocked. One of them eventually became a Protestant.

That happens. Mormons convert to Protestantism and Catholicism, and Protestants and Catholics convert to Mormonism.

Basically, Joseph Smith, attempted to perfect Christianity. But he made grave errors in his doctrinal reasoning.[/QUOTE]You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I see no contradictions between what any of Mormonism's "extra" books teach and what the Bible says Jesus taught. Furthermore, I can assure you that nothing you might be able to show me would shock or even surprise me. So, I'm assuming you're Roman Catholic. Is that right?

So, do you or do you not consider your Mormon friends to be Christians? (I'm sure that you know they consider themselves to be.)

 

[Katzpur]

Looking at how they word the baptism so that it's not clear if you're being baptized into the name Jesus Christ. For instance. they say baptized into the name of the Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost...compared to the Apostles who seem to say Baptism is all about the name of Jesus.

I see. You are opposed to baptisms being done in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and believe they should be done in Jesus' name only. Okay, well I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that one.