Jollybear
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Anti-religion
The reasons why God cannot be one and many is because first that is a contradiction. If I said to you that I am one person, yet I am many persons, that would be a contradiction. Am I you? Are you me? No, you are you and I am me. If there were to be “many” gods, then all of those gods would be their OWN person and not many persons. Now the second reason why there cannot be “many” gods is because of the reason I gave already, there cannot be an infinite amount of causes. If polytheism is true, this means there is a god, he gives birth to other gods and those gods give birth to more gods. And it just keeps going like that from eternity past. If that was the case, it would take forever to get to OUR TIME period, since it’s an infinite amount of causes and time. And that is why I say there is only ONE God and not many.
Now what if you say that there is many gods but they did not give birth to the rest of the gods, they were all there at the same time and were the first cause of the universe all together? What would I say to that? The best I can say to this is: it goes against our intuitive side and it goes against things that we know in this physical realm. It also goes against a supreme authority. There cannot be “many” gods or many authorities over us, there has to be a supreme authority. Authorities today are not all equal in power, some have more power than others. Thus this would also be the case intuitively with the “gods”. Thus there would be a God, who is above all the rest, supreme in authority and power. And, not to mention again, there has to be a first cause. This first cause cannot be MANY god’s at the same time with their own person. There has to be a ROOT source, a SEED if yea will, and many gods would imply many seeds or sources. Our intuitive knowledge, and solid knowledge of the world tells us, there is ROOT causes for things. The first cause would have to be a ROOT SOURCE, thus implying ONE God.
MSizer
The way you said that sounds like you may have gone through debating this issue already? But keep in mind, whom you debate with is also different.
You are right their IF I said “everything needs a cause”. But I did not say “everything”. I said “everything IN THE EVIVERSE has a cause, but there has to be a first cause” and that first cause for the universes spark, is OUTSIDE the universe, and this is – God. So, I did not say everything as in everything, but everything in the universe needs a cause. God is not contained in the universe, he transcends the universe, thus he is the un-caused cause for the universes creation.
The reasons why God cannot be one and many is because first that is a contradiction. If I said to you that I am one person, yet I am many persons, that would be a contradiction. Am I you? Are you me? No, you are you and I am me. If there were to be “many” gods, then all of those gods would be their OWN person and not many persons. Now the second reason why there cannot be “many” gods is because of the reason I gave already, there cannot be an infinite amount of causes. If polytheism is true, this means there is a god, he gives birth to other gods and those gods give birth to more gods. And it just keeps going like that from eternity past. If that was the case, it would take forever to get to OUR TIME period, since it’s an infinite amount of causes and time. And that is why I say there is only ONE God and not many.
Now what if you say that there is many gods but they did not give birth to the rest of the gods, they were all there at the same time and were the first cause of the universe all together? What would I say to that? The best I can say to this is: it goes against our intuitive side and it goes against things that we know in this physical realm. It also goes against a supreme authority. There cannot be “many” gods or many authorities over us, there has to be a supreme authority. Authorities today are not all equal in power, some have more power than others. Thus this would also be the case intuitively with the “gods”. Thus there would be a God, who is above all the rest, supreme in authority and power. And, not to mention again, there has to be a first cause. This first cause cannot be MANY god’s at the same time with their own person. There has to be a ROOT source, a SEED if yea will, and many gods would imply many seeds or sources. Our intuitive knowledge, and solid knowledge of the world tells us, there is ROOT causes for things. The first cause would have to be a ROOT SOURCE, thus implying ONE God.
MSizer
The way you said that sounds like you may have gone through debating this issue already? But keep in mind, whom you debate with is also different.
You are right their IF I said “everything needs a cause”. But I did not say “everything”. I said “everything IN THE EVIVERSE has a cause, but there has to be a first cause” and that first cause for the universes spark, is OUTSIDE the universe, and this is – God. So, I did not say everything as in everything, but everything in the universe needs a cause. God is not contained in the universe, he transcends the universe, thus he is the un-caused cause for the universes creation.
