Before we understand our own belief

[Spirit of Light]

Before we really understand our own belief/Religious practice, why do we criticize others for their lack of understanding or faith?

I ask because i have fallen for this many many times my self, but this morning i had a realization that, I can not critique others before i understand my own knowledge first, And yes, there are many unknown answers on the "path" to unshakable wisdom.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Before we really understand our own belief/Religious practice, why do we criticize others for their lack of understanding or faith?

I ask because i have fallen for this many many times my self, but this morning i had a realization that, I can not critique others before i understand my own knowledge first, And yes, there are many unknown answers on the "path" to unshakable wisdom.

A very good question to meditate upon

Regards Tony

 

[Spirit of Light]

A very good question to meditate upon

Regards Tony

Yes, In my understanding we can not "know" more then we have realized our own We can belive and we can think we now, but in my exeriance it is only when we realize higher wisdom/knowledge that we understand our own limitations

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Yes, In my understanding we can not "know" more then we have realized our own We can belive and we can think we now, but in my exeriance it is only when we realize higher wisdom/knowledge that we understand our own limitations

I have read many passages that tell us to consider this is so.

We can not see what other people know, we can only comprehend within the limit of our own understanding.

I see life is opening new 'Frames of Reference'.

Regards Tony

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Well, one might come to an understanding that there may be an impassable gate between the human element and something like truth, or unshakeable wisdom. In counter-argument, believing in those things may also have real utility for many people, and not everyone should question what they see as solid ground.

But from my point of view, I'm unsure if the human mind is really designed to do quite as much grasping as we do with it. We cannot see in atoms, most of us need hours to learn how to do math problems, we sometimes build mountains of words to find the heart of a problem. To understand? Or to see life more as like a river ride, where you see and experience what it shows you, and you may never understand. Are we traveling on a path that we really direct in life, or is this someone else's horse ride

 

[Spirit of Light]

Well, one might come to an understanding that there may be an impassable gate between the human element and something like truth, or unshakeable wisdom. In counter-argument, believing in those things may also have real utility for many people, and not everyone should question what they see as solid ground.

But from my point of view, I'm unsure if the human mind is really designed to do quite as much grasping as we do with it. We cannot see in atoms, most of us need hours to learn how to do math problems, we sometimes build mountains of words to find the heart of a problem. To understand? Or to see life more as like a river ride, where you see and experience what it shows you, and you may never understand. Are we traveling on a path that we really direct in life, or is this someone else's horse ride

I think when we traveling down the path "river" we experience a lot of different things, people,discussions, smells, tasts. and so on, but to realize the truth about it we would benefit from not clining to anything we experience, because as soon we experiences it, it is already in the past To be fully awake in the moment is to me a step in the right direction toward understanding who or what we are right now.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Well, one might come to an understanding that there may be an impassable gate between the human element and something like truth, or unshakeable wisdom. In counter-argument, believing in those things may also have real utility for many people, and not everyone should question what they see as solid ground.

But from my point of view, I'm unsure if the human mind is really designed to do quite as much grasping as we do with it. We cannot see in atoms, most of us need hours to learn how to do math problems, we sometimes build mountains of words to find the heart of a problem. To understand? Or to see life more as like a river ride, where you see and experience what it shows you, and you may never understand. Are we traveling on a path that we really direct in life, or is this someone else's horse ride

Want to know a little secret?

Everyone of us understands perfectly already. No training no education required.

Think of it in terms of the sum of the whole. The pinnacle by which we come about for which the entirety of truth and wisdom of the universe continually slaps us in the face as if to say,
"Wake up stupid. Everything's in the open "! ;O]

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Want to know a little secret?

Everyone of us understands perfectly already. No training no education required.

Everyone understands as much as they can perceive, a main theme in existence is that training and education might expand that window

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Before we really understand our own belief/Religious practice, why do we criticize others for their lack of understanding or faith?

I ask because i have fallen for this many many times my self, but this morning i had a realization that, I can not critique others before i understand my own knowledge first, And yes, there are many unknown answers on the "path" to unshakable wisdom.

I think about this every other once in awhile. I assume we feel what we believe is very "common sense" that if another doesn't understand it they are missing something. Which is odd because when we teach a child a math problem, we know this child doesn't know yet how to add or subtract. Instead of teaching him algebra, we go down to "his level", his language, and his way of understanding (by asking and patience and interest) so that when we get our point across, that child will understand enough to solve the problem. The older he or she gets, with the same technique, he or she will understand enough to say I agree or disagree.

As adults, it doesn't work any different. Online no different than in person.

I try to see everyone is on their own spiritual journey. So if one person debates his peer and they both believe the same thing, I sigh cause they are both on different spiritual paths in their beliefs. I wonder how much harm they are doing to their peer by criticizing his or her accuracy over appreciating the other one's growth.

Even more so, someone who says to another, "I disagree with your belief, but if you tell me more about your belief I can understand and converse with you." I can help you or see your belief and learn your language.

Takes humility and a hellofa lot of patience.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Everyone understands as much as they can perceive, a main theme in existence is that training and education might expand that window

Intellectualism and perception will only take you so far. Once you realize interconnectedness, you'll discover things are limitless and not as far as you think.

 

[LuisDantas]

Before we really understand our own belief/Religious practice, why do we criticize others for their lack of understanding or faith?

I ask because i have fallen for this many many times my self, but this morning i had a realization that, I can not critique others before i understand my own knowledge first, And yes, there are many unknown answers on the "path" to unshakable wisdom.

It is not all that hard nor quite that thorny.

Most of the major beliefs have developed defenses against criticism, but by listening to their critics and the rebuttals of their criticisms we can learn fairly quickly.

And we should. Unchecked beliefs can be very destructive indeed.

 

[Vinayaka]

Before we really understand our own belief/Religious practice, why do we criticize others for their lack of understanding or faith?

We? We do? Not everyone does.

 

[Spirit of Light]

We? We do? Not everyone does.

Many do, Not everyone

 

[Nakosis]

Before we really understand our own belief/Religious practice, why do we criticize others for their lack of understanding or faith?

I ask because i have fallen for this many many times my self, but this morning i had a realization that, I can not critique others before i understand my own knowledge first, And yes, there are many unknown answers on the "path" to unshakable wisdom.

Seems to help if one can let go of the need to be correct about everything. The ego flares up when we are told we are wrong and a person starts to feel the desire to reestablish their correctness in the world.

The truth is, I can't be correct about everything. I make a lot of mistakes, wrong choices daily. I've told my kids, the day I stop making mistakes will be the day I die.

More important is not that you've made a mistake, to err is human. What is important is the ability to make corrections. To take responsibility for your wrong actions/choices. To do that one has to first accept they've made a mistake. That often seems to be the hardest part of the process.

Mistakes will be made. Ok, deal with them. However mostly what gets me through all of that is knowing a little kindness, helpfulness and understanding goes a long way with people.

I suspect most people are just trying to get through life the best they can, same as me so be willing to forgive the mistakes of others and help them when you can. This, the ability to forgive and help I find is more important than being right all of the time.

 

[steveb1]

Before we really understand our own belief/Religious practice, why do we criticize others for their lack of understanding or faith?

I ask because i have fallen for this many many times my self, but this morning i had a realization that, I can not critique others before i understand my own knowledge first, And yes, there are many unknown answers on the "path" to unshakable wisdom.

Right. Wisdom, like charity, begins at home. Home in this case being the ego with its overconfidence and defenses. Wisdom dictates a non-condemnatory stance toward people of other beliefs than one's own.

 

[syo]

Before we really understand our own belief/Religious practice, why do we criticize others for their lack of understanding or faith?

because we are still unenlightened. i think.