"Begotten", what does it mean?

[sojourner]

Actually, YOU needn’t have bother responding… the case was over and done! All you are doing now is trying in vain to save your face!

You’re quite the wannabe comedian.

Don’t quit your day job.

 

[sojourner]

The history of the "Christian" church, which is built on the foundation of the false prophet Paul, and the "worthless shepherd", Peter (Zechariah 11), resting upon the shoulders of the beast (Revelation 13:4 & 17:3), whose authority comes from the "dragon/devil, whereas the "beast with two horns like a lamb (Christ like leaders Peter and Paul), is Constantine, whose Roman church will reign for time, times, and half a time (Daniel 7:25), until its current leader, the pope, will "fall", and all those hanging on him will be "cut off"(Isaiah 22:25). While Constantine assumed Julius Caesar's position of Pontifex Maximus, it was Constantine, who assembled the Roman Catholic church, built on the authority of the Roman empire. It will all, sooner than later, come to an end. The Roman church, and its heresies were "begotten" under the authority of Constantine. The "Christian" church and its heresies were begotten mainly under the banner of the false prophet Paul and his cohorts. The history of Rome is fairly recent, and still exists under the 8th head of the beast (Revelation 17:11). Constantine was simply the 7th head of that beast, and his legacy exist in the form of the Roman Catholic church, whose Nicene Creed is built around the false Trinity doctrine, established by Constantine. Constantine's title of Pontifex Maximus remains with the pope until "that day", when pope will "fall" (Isaiah 22:25). Yeshua preached the "kingdom", not the false gospel of grace/cross, which was initiated under the helm of the false prophet Paul, and which is the essence of "Christianity".

Yeah, I remember my first beer…

 

[sojourner]

‘Real Myths’…. ???

Now I really know where your mind is.

I could have sworn that the myth was a bona fide literary form…

 

[2ndpillar]

Yeah, I remember my first beer…

The question is, do you remember your last beer? It is the accumulation of beers which tend to kill short term brain cells. The new report on long term marijuana users being hospitalized for brain problems is also not good. How Bad Is Weed for You?: Dangers of Long-Term Marijuana Use (americanaddictioncenters.org) It seems to be a problem for the "many". who seem to think it is all right to do whatever deadens their pain by numbing their brain cells. Like most beer drinkers, they attack their symptoms and not the root cause of their problems.

 

[2ndpillar]

I could have sworn that the myth was a bona fide literary form…

The term "myth" is a bona fide form of a word, but the myth itself is not a bona fide source of information, although it could have potential questionable links to past events.

 

[sojourner]

The question is, do you remember your last beer? It is the accumulation of beers which tend to kill short term brain cells. The new report on long term marijuana users being hospitalized for brain problems is also not good. How Bad Is Weed for You?: Dangers of Long-Term Marijuana Use (americanaddictioncenters.org) It seems to be a problem for the "many". who seem to think it is all right to do whatever deadens their pain by numbing their brain cells. Like most beer drinkers, they attack their symptoms and not the root cause of their problems.

So what, pray tell, is your excuse posting for such nonsense?

 

[sojourner]

The term "myth" is a bona fide form of a word, but the myth itself is not a bona fide source of information, although it could have potential questionable links to past events.

No, but it is a real literary form and can be a useful tool for emphasizing an important truth.

 

[2ndpillar]

So what, pray tell, is your excuse posting for such nonsense?

It was in response to your posting a nonsensical posting. Apparently, you missed the irony.

 

[sojourner]

It was in response to your posting a nonsensical posting. Apparently, you missed the irony.

Apparently I dismiss the irony. Please answer the question: what’s your excuse for passing off nonsense as truth?

 

[Soapy]

You’re quite the wannabe comedian.

Don’t quit your day job.

My day job IS as a comedian… thank you for your recognition of this aspect of my talent.

Scriptural truth against the trinity fallacy is one of my other God-given talents.

• ‘Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.” (Acts 2:36)
• “You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.“ (Acts 10:37-38)

By the way what is your day job? Is it by any chance, as an opposer to truth - an accuser of the venerable ones? There’s a title for such persons!

By the way, did you provide evidence of what you claim that there’s no difference between a NAME and a TITLE?

How does this work then for the many Deities whom are classed a God (Title) of the nations and whom are each identified by their personal identity (NAME)?

 

[Soapy]

It was in response to your posting a nonsensical posting. Apparently, you missed the irony.

Oh, he knows the irony alright… He just doesn’t know how to accept that he is wrong even in the face of bare truth … he’s not going to give in to irony if he can’t give in to truth.

It is a testimony over time that when such ones get into the depth of denial it’s really hard to admit they’d failure - they plow on hoping to save face by attempting to frustrate the truth speaker. Posting nonsensical distractions does work for some of them if the receiver is easily distracted. Unfortunately, I’m not easily done so. I have a ‘box’ with a header label for the question I ask. Only answers pertaining to the question go into that ‘box’, therefore it’s easy to see when the question asked has not been answered. Oh yes, I will delve into sideline issues but the empty ‘box’ is still in my eyesight and I will remind the person that it requires filling (or leave it empty if they show enough opposer-ship).

But you then know that if they are refusing to give answers or credible responses, they know they are wrong…. Why class themselves as ‘Truth Speakers’ if they are going to be deceivers? Isn’t that exactly whom are called by title, ‘a Satan’ or ‘Satans’?

 

[2ndpillar]

Apparently I dismiss the irony. Please answer the question: what’s your excuse for passing off nonsense as truth?

Actually, what I wrote was truthful, but packaged as irony. Drug users loose in the end. Beer is for the perishing, and no one holds them to account.

Proverbs 31:6 Let beer be for those who are perishing, wine for those who are in anguish!

 

[sojourner]

My day job IS as a comedian… thank you for your recognition of this aspect of my talent

You have to prove that assertion; thus far, you’re not very funny.

Scriptural truth against the trinity fallacy is one of my other God-given talents.

Why haven’t you been applying that “talent?”

By the way, did you provide evidence of what you claim that there’s no difference between a NAME and a TITLE?

Just the factual statement that Satan doesn’t appear in the creation myths. You won’t find the name, the title, the entity, or the literary character. Whether it’s a name or a title, the concept simply isn’t found within the creation myths.

 

[sojourner]

Actually, what I wrote was truthful, but packaged as irony. Drug users loose in the end. Beer is for the perishing, and no one holds them to account.

Proverbs 31:6 Let beer be for those who are perishing, wine for those who are in anguish!

Answer to question please. I’m still waiting to hear your reasons.

 

[Soapy]

You have to prove that assertion; thus far, you’re not very funny.

A drunk man walks into a bar and says, ‘Ouch!’… it was an iron bar!!!

Why haven’t you been applying that “talent?”

Not all are able to recognise talent!

Just the factual statement that Satan doesn’t appear in the creation myths. You won’t find the name, the title, the entity, or the literary character. Whether it’s a name or a title, the concept simply isn’t found within the creation myths.

I echo the words of Jesus:

• ‘Father, I think you that these things were spoken unto those of innocence’

Yes, the truth would mortify those who claim to be grown up and intelligent.

 

[sojourner]

Best scholarship suggests that this isn’t an authentic quote of Jesus.

Father, I think you that these things were spoken unto those of innocence’

 

[Soapy]

Best scholarship suggests that this isn’t an authentic quote of Jesus.

The words are not quoted per se. But they reflect the words that Jesus spoke:

• “And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades. For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you. At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.“ (Matt 11:23-25)

Which part does not reflect what Jesus said?

Are you disputing exact quotation? Who translated the Amaraic initial quote into Greek, the Greek into Latin, and the Latin into English?

And Biblehub.com has nearly 20 versions of the quote.

Or are you disagreeing because of the typo (‘thank’, not ‘think’)

Standard usage of quotation marks:

• “Direct quotations are when the writer is telling exactly (word for word) what a person or character said. These statements are always enclosed with quotations. Indirect quotes are summaries or paraphrasing what a character or person said.”

By the way, where in a simple sentence quote (as I put out) starts with single quotes, it is to be taken as a paraphrased quote or partial or limited quotes sentence. Full ACTUAL QUOTES are in double quote marks (“ … “). Where a sentence quote contains other quoted sentences the quotation marks are alternated (relating an incident at a school):

• ‘At the school disco Phil was outside the hall talking to a friend. Phil said, “Alice told me to ‘Go away,’ and so I did”. Phil wasn’t happy at all because he’d been spurned by his love interest!’

Notice also that I don’t put a full stop at the end of any of my bullet-point sentence.

 

[sojourner]

The words are not quoted per se. But they reflect the words that Jesus spoke:

• “And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades. For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you. At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.“ (Matt 11:23-25)

Which part does not reflect what Jesus said?

Are you disputing exact quotation? Who translated the Amaraic initial quote into Greek, the Greek into Latin, and the Latin into English?

And Biblehub.com has nearly 20 versions of the quote.

Or are you disagreeing because of the typo (‘thank’, not ‘think’)

Standard usage of quotation marks:

• “Direct quotations are when the writer is telling exactly (word for word) what a person or character said. These statements are always enclosed with quotations. Indirect quotes are summaries or paraphrasing what a character or person said.”

By the way, where in a simple sentence quote (as I put out) starts with single quotes, it is to be taken as a paraphrased quote or partial or limited quotes sentence. Full ACTUAL QUOTES are in double quote marks (“ … “). Where a sentence quote contains other quoted sentences the quotation marks are alternated (relating an incident at a school):

• ‘At the school disco Phil was outside the hall talking to a friend. Phil said, “Alice told me to ‘Go away,’ and so I did”. Phil wasn’t happy at all because he’d been spurned by his love interest!’

Notice also that I don’t put a full stop at the end of any of my bullet-point sentence.

The quote is not authentic to Jesus. Period.

 

[Soapy]

The quote is not authentic to Jesus. Period.

The nonsense gets deeper… now I don’t even know what it is you ARE disputing!!

 

[sojourner]

The nonsense gets deeper… now I don’t even know what it is you ARE disputing!!

I see through your posts. You’re trolling. You’re not interested in debate; you’re interested in playing with people.

This conversation is done.