Being Atheist

[Cacotopia]

yeah, hopefully the next model has better replacement parts

Shame I prolly won't be alive to partake in this reality.

 

[blü 2]

It seems to me that an atheist would be very worried about the proximate future.

I'm surprised at your implication that a theist need not entertain such a worry.

You've only got, at most, as much time to impact the world as you have mortal breaths in a single life, and a lack of planning will restrict even that number as mortality will find you that much sooner.

Again, theists live under the same restriction.

My atheist friends really ought to be as efficiency-minded as possible, if they want their life to mean anything. Yes?

Does it mean nothing to live a life as a good child, partner, parent, friend, neighbor, citizen, human? Does it mean nothing to raise your children to be those things? Whether or not you're a believer?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Oh dear!! You do not know what atheists think.
We realise that we have one life and we must make the most of it. Enjoy every day, do good every day, make the most of friendships and opportunities that come your way, look after our planet and its flora and fauna.
Theists are going to be disappointed, there is no afterlife, so if they do not make the most of this life they will miss out. They are gambling on unproven religions.

I don't know what atheists think, and I AM one. Strikes me that we're not a homogenuous group, and there is quite a bit of variance in how we consider life, the planet, and our place in it.

 

[Jumi]

Dunno, I was more worried about tomorrow when I was atheist. It's like these two theism and atheism don't have much to do with our worries.

 

[david-david]

Are you asking how we feel about any afterlives?

I don't know about others. Myself, I have long concluded that it is not a worthwhile worry for one to have.

so true.. not worthwhile to worry about.. but worthwhile to rejoice and live knowing, God willing..

 

[Altfish]

I don't know what atheists think, and I AM one. Strikes me that we're not a homogenuous group, and there is quite a bit of variance in how we consider life, the planet, and our place in it.

Didn't someone say that getting atheists to agree is like hearding cats.

 

[ChristineM]

Isn't worrying about tomorrow? today is enough to be, or not to be?

I'm concerned how my children will make out as adults

I'm concerned about brexit, about how the undefined, being negotiated by the unprepared, in order to get the unspecified for the uninformed will work out.

And plenty more things to worry about, just as a religious person worries about the future. Yes i worry, it's human nature.

However if you mean about after death? Nope couldnt care less. I know my molecules and atoms will exist as long as the universe exists. They might go into creating another life (we are all partly made of dead people anyway), they might go into a new sun and shine brightly for the whole universe to see... Ain't that better then a dreamed of hum drum afterlife surrounded by holier than thou-ites

 

[ChristineM]

Actually being atheist is not something a person can choose. God calls those people He wants and gives them faith to believe. Atheists have not received the call.

??? Get him to send me an email.

 

[Politesse]

I'm surprised at your implication that a theist need not entertain such a worry.
Again, theists live under the same restriction.

Not really in the same way, though, is it?

Does it mean nothing to live a life as a good child, partner, parent, friend, neighbor, citizen, human? Does it mean nothing to raise your children to be those things? Whether or not you're a believer?

I don't see why the threat of annihilation would be necessary to make those things valuable. Of course I wish to be a good person. That's good for its own sake.

 

[Fool]

I'm concerned how my children will make out as adults

I'm concerned about brexit, about how the undefined, being negotiated by the unprepared, in order to get the unspecified for the uninformed will work out.

And plenty more things to worry about, just as a religious person worries about the future. Yes i worry, it's human nature.

However if you mean about after death? Nope couldnt care less. I know my molecules and atoms will exist as long as the universe exists. They might go into creating another life (we are all partly made of dead people anyway), they might go into a new sun and shine brightly for the whole universe to see... Ain't that better then a dreamed of hum drum afterlife surrounded by holier than thou-ites

yes but that is one of the things many christian theists become hung up on, the power of death.


Revelation 2:11
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

they identify with the personality so strongly that they want to preserve it, condition it. they eventually become unable to evolve past the image of the beast, or the human animal experience; if they can't overcome the illusion of total annihilation that they associate with the form at the ignorance of the energy that created it

 

[blü 2]

I don't see why the threat of annihilation would be necessary to make those things valuable. Of course I wish to be a good person. That's good for its own sake.

My point exactly. Religion is not a requirement for being a good person.

 

[Fool]

My point exactly. Religion is not a requirement for being a good person.

but you know a person by their belief system. the belief system gets projected in to action; especially when the system is put under duress.

a tree is known by it's fruit

 

[Politesse]

My point exactly. Religion is not a requirement for being a good person.

Who said it was?

 

[ChristineM]

yes but that is one of the things many christian theists become hung up on, the power of death.


Revelation 2:11
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

they identify with the personality so strongly that they want to preserve it, condition it. they eventually become unable to evolve past the image of the beast, or the human animal experience; if they can't overcome the illusion of total annihilation that they associate with the form at the ignorance of the energy that created it

Perhaps the should study more science and get to learn what happens after death rather then making up selective scenarios to mask that ignorance.

 

[Fool]

Perhaps the should study more science and get to learn what happens after death rather then making up selective scenarios to mask that ignorance.

or maybe they should study the prior being before coming into being


84. Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you are happy. But when you see your images that came into being before you and that neither die nor become visible, how much you will have to bear!"


87. Jesus said, "How miserable is the body that depends on a body, and how miserable is the soul that depends on these two."

 

[columbus]

Actually being atheist is not something a person can choose. God calls those people He wants and gives them faith to believe. Atheists have not received the call.

This God image strikes me as bizarrely psychotic.

I think it's just a way for certain types of religious people to avoid the responsibility of being such abysmally poor spokespersons for God that most people don't find them at all credible.
Tom

 

[ChristineM]

or maybe they should study the prior being before coming into being


84. Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you are happy. But when you see your images that came into being before you and that neither die nor become visible, how much you will have to bear!"


87. Jesus said, "How miserable is the body that depends on a body, and how miserable is the soul that depends on these two."

It was only a suggestion, they can study what they like, if they want to believe bronze and iron age books to build their dreams of eternal white fluffy pillows that's fine by me.

 

[blü 2]

but you know a person by their belief system. the belief system gets projected in to action; especially when the system is put under duress.

a tree is known by it's fruit

You imply that a 'belief system' is necessary before a person can behave well under stress.

If by 'belief system' you mean belief in one or more supernatural beings, then the facts are against you. No such belief is required in order to be a good person, stressed or not.

 

[Fool]

You imply that a 'belief system' is necessary before a person can behave well under stress.

If by 'belief system' you mean belief in one or more supernatural beings, then the facts are against you. No such belief is required in order to be a good person, stressed or not.

i'm implying that a person's belief system is revealed under duress, be it good or bad. if the person is hiding anything in their shadow, that thing will materialize. its usually anything that the self finds repugnant about the image of the beast it projects vs the shadow it suppresses or something it may wish to keep hidden.

i never stated anything about supernatural or other beings


nothing can go up except that which came down. come out!! come up!!!

Revelation 6:13
And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

Revelation 8:10
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;