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Being Childfree

paradox

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I put this in the debates forum because there's no way this won't turn into a debate.

I'm a woman in my thirties and childfree by choice. I've been told so many times that I am selfish for choosing not to bring children into this world.

I don't hate children. I'm an auntie that spoils her friend's kids. But I have no desire to be a mom. Like, at all. I firmly believe that this world is horribly overpopulated, and with the way things are right now, I don't want to bring a child into the world. I'm content right now with where I am in my life; I have a home, a job, and two cats. I live next to my parents and visit them daily. In the future maybe I will start a romantic relationship. I'm whole, without the need for children.

Is anyone else here childfree by choice? What are your thoughts on couples or single people who decide to live childfree?
child free by choice as well, this is now in.

problem though is one day we won't be able to get out of seek bed and there won't be anyone to care.
 

Ashoka

श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
child free by choice as well, this is now in.

problem though is one day we won't be able to get out of seek bed and there won't be anyone to care.

Yes there will. I have friends and family around me, and I plan to also date and possibly marry. It's not that it's "in" it's that women and those who can have children are speaking out more, without fear.
 

paradox

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Yes there will. I have friends and family around me, and I plan to also date and possibly marry.
I don't want to sound bad but I think you're too much optimistic.
You know you can count only on those younger than you?
 

VoidCat

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I don't want to sound bad but I think you're too much optimistic.
You know you can count only on those younger than you?
You also know there's options for disabled adults to be cared for right? Im an adult and i live in a group home where im cared for. There's also adult foster home programs, nursing homes, ICF facilities, a variety of different types of programs and such for adults to be cared for...

@Ashoka need not to worry. There's many programs and different type homes for disabled adults if she ends up needing care and has no one which is highly unlikely
 

Ashoka

श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
I don't want to sound bad but I think you're too much optimistic.
You know you can count only on those younger than you?

I will be fine. I've thought long and hard about this. I'm just content right now with where I'm at, and I don't have any desire to have kids. And to be honest, bringing kids into the world just so they can take care of me later is super selfish.
 

paradox

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You also know there's options for disabled adults to be cared for right? Im an adult and i live in a group home where im cared for. There's also adult foster home programs, nursing homes, ICF facilities, a variety of different types of programs and such for adults to be cared for...
That is fine if disabled person can afford it, I mean if there is no one to finance it.
 

VoidCat

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That is fine if disabled person can afford it, I mean if there is no one to finance it.
Government pays for me to stay at the group home. I haven't paid a dime outside my SSI and special assistance since I got here.

If @Ashoka were to become disabled chances are she'd likely get on disability. She'd also likely be able to stop by Social services and get put on special assistance. Chances are if she was put in a group home for adults she wont have many expenses and she'd get a small allowance from her social security after her bills are paid for given back at her. I don't know how nursing homes or adult foster homes or other programs work but government assistance is likely to help out a lot too.
 
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Koldo

Outstanding Member
I don't want to sound bad but I think you're too much optimistic.
You know you can count only on those younger than you?

If you truly want to count on that you ought to have 3+ children because some of them might die or be disabled or just ignore your existence...
And the cost is.. well...
 

paradox

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If you truly want to count on that you ought to have 3+ children because some of them might die or be disabled or just ignore your existence...
And the cost is.. well...
It's not something you count on, that's how it works.
Not everybody wants to end their life outside their home, I certainly don't want to end up in some care house where people do things for their pay rather than love.
 

VoidCat

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It's not something you count on, that's how it works.
Not everybody wants to end their life outside their home, I certainly don't want to end up in some care house where people do things for their pay rather than love.
Fair. But it's not so bad living in a care facility not always. And it's an option.
 

Ashoka

श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
There's a really swanky care home in town, actually. The people there love their job, and the seniors and other residents seem to have a lot of fun. I visited it once, and it was pretty nice.
 

VoidCat

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There's a really swanky care home in town, actually. The people there love their job, and the seniors and other residents seem to have a lot of fun. I visited it once, and it was pretty nice.
A lot of people talk **** about care homes but most never even visited and look often at how the places are ran and how the residents are.

Ive had 10 people at least ask if i want to move in with them cuz I live in a group home without asking me if I even want out the group home. But i love it here im not miserable. I plan on moving out eventually but it's not cuz the place is bad.
 

paradox

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Fair. But it's not so bad living in a care facility not always. And it's an option.
Depends a lot on your company there, if there are only 4-5 people it would be a real pain for me since I would have to adjust my narrative to those 4-5, I enjoy to be among more people..
Also it depends on country you live in, care is not same everywhere, if it's financed by government then it's certainly not some luxury and it depends even further on country.
 

Ashoka

श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
A lot of people talk **** about care homes but most never even visited and look often at how the places are ran and how the residents are.

Ive had 10 people at least ask if i want to move in with them cuz I live in a group home without asking me if I even want out the group home. But i love it here im not miserable. I plan on moving out eventually but it's not cuz the place is bad.

I worked in a group home, and the residents there were so happy. One of them always got annoyed with me because "How many times are you gonna come into my house?" "I work here." "Oh. Okay." I loved it. We basically ate junk food and watched the golden girls.
 

VoidCat

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I worked in a group home, and the residents there were so happy. One of them always got annoyed with me because "How many times are you gonna come into my house?" "I work here." "Oh. Okay." I loved it. We basically ate junk food and watched the golden girls.
Im happy here for sure. It's not bad not really. I get bored easy but that's easily fixed
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
It's not something you count on, that's how it works.
Not everybody wants to end their life outside their home, I certainly don't want to end up in some care house where people do things for their pay rather than love.

What do you mean by 'that's how it works'?
As in children taking care of their parents?
If you are taking that for granted, you couldn't be more wrong... Worse yet, often enough children only stay around because of the money...
 

paradox

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As in children taking care of their parents?
yes.

If you are taking that for granted, you couldn't be more wrong... Worse yet, often enough children only stay around because of the money...
money?
well if you teach your children to care about money more than taking care of you when you get old then that's your fault for bad upbringing of children.
But then would you take care about money of your parents more than taking care of their wellbeing in seek bed?
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
I put this in the debates forum because there's no way this won't turn into a debate.

I'm a woman in my thirties and childfree by choice. I've been told so many times that I am selfish for choosing not to bring children into this world.

I don't hate children. I'm an auntie that spoils her friend's kids. But I have no desire to be a mom. Like, at all. I firmly believe that this world is horribly overpopulated, and with the way things are right now, I don't want to bring a child into the world. I'm content right now with where I am in my life; I have a home, a job, and two cats. I live next to my parents and visit them daily. In the future maybe I will start a romantic relationship. I'm whole, without the need for children.

Is anyone else here childfree by choice? What are your thoughts on couples or single people who decide to live childfree?

I don't have or want children. I can't say I've had people insult me to my face as a result of that decision. The most resistance I've faced is having family members who were convinced I'd change my mind someday. Now that I'm over 30, they seem to have realised my stance isn't going to change. Perhaps being a man makes it less likely that people would view me as selfish for not having children.

I'm also an either an anti-natalist or am at least on the verge of being one, depending on how strictly you want to define it. I hold that it's better not to have children at all but I don't view having children as necessarily unethical or immoral. I also dislike much of what I see in the various anti-natalist movements. It seems like the philosophical reasons for anti-natalism are frequently drowned out by outright vitriol towards parents.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I put this in the debates forum because there's no way this won't turn into a debate.

I'm a woman in my thirties and childfree by choice. I've been told so many times that I am selfish for choosing not to bring children into this world.

I don't hate children. I'm an auntie that spoils her friend's kids. But I have no desire to be a mom. Like, at all. I firmly believe that this world is horribly overpopulated, and with the way things are right now, I don't want to bring a child into the world. I'm content right now with where I am in my life; I have a home, a job, and two cats. I live next to my parents and visit them daily. In the future maybe I will start a romantic relationship. I'm whole, without the need for children.

Is anyone else here childfree by choice? What are your thoughts on couples or single people who decide to live childfree?
I'm with ya. I have absolutely no desire to continue my gene pool and am quite content not to put more children into this existence with traits and characteristics like heart disease and diabetes. I feel it spares greif and misery. I probably would have differed had my genetic makeup had better bloodlines and genes for future children as i support eugenics personally but not in a mad psychopathic way. "0]

My better half feels the same way. Having no children can and is a beautiful thing.
 
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