Sabour
Well-Known Member
Well believing in God will limit the texts you would look at.
Texts is not just about the fact that God exists. There are many other things one should consider.
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Belief in God or texts
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Well believing in God will limit the texts you would look at.
Texts is not just about the fact that God exists. There are many other things one should consider.
edwardgledson
New Member
no. somebody have to write
With that you are saying attributes of god verify texts. I am not sure I agree because no matter the theology you can be any religion and believe any text.
The more pressing question, how does just belief in god spell out any attributes of truth that makes certain texts more viable than any other? What else should be considered?
I like the tests idea, they speak truth and could accurately predict. Well einstein did that so maybe other things can be considered? All prophets with scripts pass these tests to the believers.
I didn't want to create another thread.
I don't know if I can really take any sacred texts seriously to say what god should or shouldn't be. As soon as one text is preferred it colors god a certain way with attributes and the very nature of God. If people believe in god first how is it possible to find out gods attributes without considering one text over another as legitimate as to what it says about god?
I don't know if I can really take any sacred texts seriously to say what god should or shouldn't be. As soon as one text is preferred it colors god a certain way with attributes and the very nature of God. If people believe in god first how is it possible to find out gods attributes without considering one text over another as legitimate as to what it says about god?
outhouse
Atheistically
That comes from historians and science.
Both of which show, only man has created deities. Then wrote and redefinied them as beliefs spread to different cultures.
If we had words from god, there would not be so many historical and scientific errors.
If we had words from god, there would be no fighting over intepretation. Because if he made us, he would also know how we think.
It would not have been responsible for a god to leave us so many different versions of his so called words
that only mirrors the culture that did the writing God does not exist scientifically, and no writing has ever been attributed to any god with credibility.
outhouse
Atheistically
That is not honest is it?
It is factually not a fact.
As a matter of fact, no god exist outside of mythology scientifically, at this point in time.
outhouse
Atheistically
Good post.
yes only man writes and defines god ALWAYS mirroring the cultural needs and wants of the people writing the definition.
Which is factually creting a deity on paper/papyrus
Probably depends on the individual.
Personal experiences drive my beliefs which drive which texts I find credible. Many folks I talk to claim their experiences drive there belief as well.
Yet many also claim a text like the Bible to be the ultimate arbitrator of their belief. They'd reject personal experience if it is seen as contradictory to religious texts.
I guess I am more willing to trust my own experiences then what others claim those experiences should be. At the same time I've come across a significant number of individuals who have independently arrived at similar conclusions as I have.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
The texts don't convince anyone -- and if they do, that belief is tenuous. Heres why: Faith isn't a "head thing" -- that is, one doesn't intellectualize faith. Faith is a "heart thing" -- that is, one internalizes faith. Faith is always best built within a foundation of relationships that work pragmatically in the world, not only in theory, on paper.
Furthermore, where the bible is concerned, the intent of the written text was never to engender belief; it was simply to record the Tradition of the believing community.