Belief is Irrelevant

[Thief]

Someone posted as if this title is literally true

I suppose your pending post should define what belief is
and then declare it be important
or not

 

[LuisDantas]

Belief is relevant. But it must be supported. Logically as well, but morally most of all.

I did not vote, because of course I disagree with the statement and therefore neither of the three options apply for me.

 

[Thief]

well said.....
I might add that belief is not always focused to morality

and support of the heart should be held as important
If your belief doesn't make you feel good.....you might let go

 

[bobhikes]

Belief is irrelevant until acted on.

 

[LuisDantas]

Belief is irrelevant until acted on.

Don't you think that belief is a motivator, and therefore worth of some consideration?

 

[leibowde84]

Someone posted as if this title is literally true

I suppose your pending post should define what belief is
and then declare it be important
or not

Believing in something is the state of being convinced it is the case. It is not a choice, because one cannot choose to be convinced of something.

In order to say whether it is important or not, context must be provided. Sometimes belief is important, sometimes it is not. It depends what the subject of belief is.

But, I do think it is important to have a high standard of belief. In order to avoid gullibility, one must demand a certain level of evidence to be convinced of something. Hope, comfort, happiness, etc. don't meet that standard and should not influence belief. For example, I think it is dangerous for anyone to believe something simply because they hope it is true.

 

[bobhikes]

Don't you think that belief is a motivator, and therefore worth of some consideration?

Belief can be a motivator, it can be a diversion, it can be an anti-motivator, it can be a lot of things but until acted on it is just a belief

Funny Story, I have a cousin that believed they hated a certain vegetable. I went to a restaurant with them where they were served the vegetable ate it and when questioned explained they ate it all the time. After the meal and leaving the restaurant I explained that the vegetable they ate was the one they keep saying they hate. Of course at first they didn't believe me (their first action) but it was easily proven.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Belief is relevant. But it must be supported. Logically as well, but morally most of all.

I did not vote, because of course I disagree with the statement and therefore neither of the three options apply for me.

^^ This.

Being logical by itself is meaningless (Kant in the Critique of Pure Reason).

People do have reasons for their beliefs--usually based in personal experience, which includes their experiences with their society's culture--but the question is whether or not anyone else will accept those experiences/knowledge that they are reasoning from.

 

[sun rise]

Belief in the most general sense is a hypothesis as in, for example, string theory in physics. Conviction is much stronger "I'm convinced string theory is true" - I'm deliberately starting with physics.

In matters of religion, belief can be superficial - my parents believe in something and I adopt their belief uncritically and unthinkingly (and often superficially).

Or it can be strong as in having had certain experiences and thought deeply about them and my beliefs motivate my behavior.

 

[leibowde84]

Belief in the most general sense is a hypothesis as in, for example, string theory in physics. Conviction is much stronger "I'm convinced string theory is true" - I'm deliberately starting with physics.

In matters of religion, belief can be superficial - my parents believe in something and I adopt their belief uncritically and unthinkingly (and often superficially).

Or it can be strong as in having had certain experiences and thought deeply about them and my beliefs motivate my behavior.

One doesn't believe in anything until they are convinced, at least to some degree. Belief requires thinking that something is true. One can't think something is true unless they are convinced for some reason.

 

[Nakosis]

Someone posted as if this title is literally true

I suppose your pending post should define what belief is
and then declare it be important
or not

Belief maybe irrelevant to truth. To whatever degree you can validate a truth.

For those things we accept as truth which cannot be validated, belief reigns supreme.

 

[Mister Silver]

One doesn't believe in anything until they are convinced, at least to some degree. Belief requires thinking that something is true. One can't think something is true unless they are convinced for some reason.

Yet a reason is not necessarily reasonable.

 

[leibowde84]

Yet a reason is not necessarily reasonable.

Very true. What might convince some won't convince others. Part of the human condition I guess.

 

[McBell]

Someone posted as if this title is literally true

I suppose your pending post should define what belief is
and then declare it be important
or not

Seems to me context is crucial.

 

[sun rise]

One doesn't believe in anything until they are convinced, at least to some degree. Belief requires thinking that something is true. One can't think something is true unless they are convinced for some reason.

True but I was focusing on depth of belief from superficial to deep conviction.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Someone posted as if this title is literally true

I suppose your pending post should define what belief is
and then declare it be important
or not

Irrelevant to what?

 

[leibowde84]

Someone posted as if this title is literally true

I suppose your pending post should define what belief is
and then declare it be important
or not

What did the poster actually say explaining why belief is irrelevant?

 

[Thief]

Quote me.....it's mine....

If your hand does anything at all....
It's because you thought you should
or you felt like it

Also.....An unbridled heart is fickle

Belief should be the motivation of your hand

 

[Thief]

having said that much.....

what part of your mind and heart lacks belief?
your thoughts (that you believe) are irrelevant?
your emotions (that move you) are irrelevant?

 

[Thief]

One doesn't believe in anything until they are convinced, at least to some degree. Belief requires thinking that something is true. One can't think something is true unless they are convinced for some reason.

reason is then sufficient?

why then the constant plea for evidence?