Benjamin Netanyahu's statement actually offends me. Am I wromg to be offended?

[Bunyip]

Are you seriously incapable to answer me like a grown up would do?

I didn't even attack you in that post.

How did you get from my pointing out the fact that Israel was established in the 40's to imagining I said it doesn't deserve to exist?
If you make such a nonsensical leap, don't whine about being pulled up on it.

 

[Flankerl]

to imagining I said it doesn't deserve to exist?

Which I didn't.

 

[Bunyip]

Which I didn't.

Then what was that shtick about how America doesn't deserve to exist?

 

[Flankerl]

Then what was that shtick about how America doesn't deserve to exist?

Ugh.
You wrote Israel didn't exist prior to the 20th century.
I wrote the USA didn't exist prior to the latter half of the 18th century.

New countries are born all the time, nothing wrong with it. The line that Israel didn't exist prior to the 20th century though is often used by a certain kind of people.
Therefore I made the example with the USA. I could've also taken Canada or Italy.

 

[Bunyip]

Ugh.
You wrote Israel didn't exist prior to the 20th century.
I wrote the USA didn't exist prior to the latter half of the 18th century.

New countries are born all the time, nothing wrong with it. The line that Israel didn't exist prior to the 20th century though is often used by a certain kind of people.
Therefore I made the example with the USA. I could've also taken Canada or Italy.

What was your point? Sure, countries are created all the time.

 

[Flankerl]

Sure, countries are created all the time.

Isn't it great to agree?

 

[Bunyip]

Ugh.
You wrote Israel didn't exist prior to the 20th century.
I wrote the USA didn't exist prior to the latter half of the 18th century.

New countries are born all the time, nothing wrong with it. The line that Israel didn't exist prior to the 20th century though is often used by a certain kind of people.
Therefore I made the example with the USA. I could've also taken Canada or Italy.

What was your point? Sure, countries aare created.

 

[Bunyip]

Isn't it great to agree?

I'm not at all againt Israel, I am against the notion of the Jewish diaspora leaving the rest of the world. It would be an incalculable loss.

 

[rosends]

I'm not at all againt Israel, I am against the notion of the Jewish diaspora leaving the rest of the world. It would be an incalculable loss.

But that notion, when suggested by a Jew, and agreed to by other Jews is categorically different from an outsider forcing Jews to leave, which you invoke in post 226. Helen Thomas, telling all Jews to "go back home to Poland" is quite different from Mr. Netanyahu saying "come back to Israel." If the "Jewish diaspora" gets a better offer then why shouldn't it leave of its own accord? After millennia of being kicked out one would think that the rest of the world would be happy that Jews would choose to leave willingly.

 

[FearGod]

This is his statement:
"Extremist Islamic terrorism has struck Europe again, this time in Denmark. We send our condolences to the Danish people and to the Jewish community in Denmark. Jews have been murdered again on European soil only because they were Jews and this wave of terrorist attacks – including murderous anti-Semitic attacks – is expected to continue.

Of course, Jews deserve protection in every country but we say to Jews, to our brothers and sisters: Israel is your home. We are preparing and calling for the absorption of mass immigration from Europe. I would like to tell all European Jews and all Jews wherever they are: 'Israel is the home of every Jew.'

Today we will submit to the Cabinet a NIS 180 million plan to encourage the absorption of immigrants from France, Belgium and Ukraine. We will submit additional plans later. To the Jews of Europe and to the Jews of the world I say that Israel is waiting for you with open arms."

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1032496376765107

What seems to have happened is that a lone gunman (apparently from an arabic background) walked up to a meeting/dedate about freedom of speach and fired a semi automatic weapon at the participants.
He killed one of the participants of the meeting, a film instructor Finn Nørgaard, age 55. And wounded 3 policemen.

He then escaped by stealing a car from a woman, drove for a while, got out and called for a taxi.

After the taxi driver dropped off the shooter the taxi driver called the police. (I can't help thinking about the fact that many of the taxi drivers that drive around and pick up the drunks on saturday are muslim)

Later the shooter started shooting neer a synagogue. He killed a young man Dan Uzan, age 37 standing guard at the door at the Bat mitzva of a young girl. Two policemen were also there and they were both wounded.

Later the police shot and killed the man they assume is the shooter.

So we have one lone lunatic with an arabic background, one danish film instructor, one danish woman, one taxi driver (who when I picture him looks very middle eastern), one danish jew and lots of danish police, and somehow to Benjamin Netanyahu this is an Extremist Islamic terrorist attack on Jews.

I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised that Netanyahu grabs this event and tries to use it in support of his own political agenda, and I am not surprised.

I am however offended. Im I wrong to be so?

Edit: Oh! An I forgot that one of the speekers at the debate meeting was Lars Vilks (Swedish guy who made Mohammed cartoons). Again not very jewish as far as I can tell.

Yes of course he should be worried about the Jews,they are the chosen people.
Europeans and the rest of the world are gentiles, no problem if they died, hence Netanyahu wants the Jews to leave Europe to Israel as he thinks Europe isn't a safe place to the Jews anymore, but i think he's wrong as Europe will be much safer than Israel because Europe is far from the Islamic world and not occupying their holy lands as Israel did.

 

[Flankerl]

Glas you agree that Muslims are dangerous and not to be trusted.

And they actually wonder why Likud is going to be reelected...

 

[FearGod]

Europe isn't among the Islamic countries, but yes Muslims will be very dangerous to Israel specially Iran.

 

[Flankerl]

So if it's dangerous for Jews to live in Israel because of the Muslim threat, how come we also get murdered by Muslims outside of Israel?

It seems it doesn't matter where we live...

 

[Jumi]

The killer in Denmark didn't even know the people he killed in his mindless rage. So he didn't bother to find out if this was a "good filmmaker", a "good Jew" or if these were "bad ones".

 

[Flankerl]

The killer in Denmark didn't even know the people he killed in his mindless rage. So he didn't bother to find out if this was a "good filmmaker", a "good Jew" or if these were "bad ones".

I disagree. If most Jews aren't good people then it's perfectly reasonable to assume that if you kill a Jew it's actually a bad one.

And if it was a good Jew he'd support your fight against the evil Jews.


And yes that is how quite some people think.

 

[FearGod]

So if it's dangerous for Jews to live in Israel because of the Muslim threat, how come we also get murdered by Muslims outside of Israel?

It seems it doesn't matter where we live...

That is a play to push some stupid Jews to immigrate to Israel in order to send them to protect the borders of Israel and to fight if a war started with Hizboallah and Iran.

 

[Jumi]

And if it was a good Jew he'd support your fight against the evil Jews.

So there is no misunderstanding, I have no fight here. Let me try to say the same again:

The killer thought all people participating in the conference were to be killed and all Jews observant enough to go to a Synagogue. He didn't even care enough to find out what his victims thought.

 

[Jumi]

That is a play to push some stupid Jews to immigrate to Israel in order to send them to protect the borders of Israel and to fight if a war started with Hizboallah and Iran.

That's how things work. So the killer unwittingly made Israel stronger? Of course! Harassing and killing Jews in Europe, of course some of them will make the move and go to Israel. These people will have more reason to defend their new country also, because they will feel it's the only one they can go to.

 

[Flankerl]

That is a play to push some stupid Jews to immigrate to Israel in order to send them to protect the borders of Israel and to fight if a war started with Hizboallah and Iran.

So again: If Jews are at risk in Israel how come we regularly are targeted outside of Israel?

Now now don't evade the subject.

 

[FearGod]

That's how things work. So the killer unwittingly made Israel stronger? Of course! Harassing and killing Jews in Europe, of course some of them will make the move and go to Israel. These people will have more reason to defend their new country also, because they will feel it's the only one they can go to.

No, it's wittingly done and by Israel.

As simple as this, Hey Jews, move to Israel, Europe isn't safe anymore.