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Bernie Sanders is Getting a Raw Deal by Some Democrats

Maximus

the Confessor
Yes, they're trying to win by nasty tactics. It's totally to be expected because they are without honor and without shame.

Trump is terrified of Biden so that is why he (Trump) is acting like he cares what the D party is doing to Sanders.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
Trump is terrified of Biden so that is why he (Trump) is acting like he cares what the D party is doing to Sanders.

Biden is the choice of the establishment democrats for the safe dem voters who wish to continue the status quo. Bernie Sanders represents actual change and challenging the system.
If you want to get down to it Trump and Bernie Sanders have a lot in common despite their political differences.
Both have:
-Been vilified in certain establishment democrat serving media
- had it intimated that they were Nazis
- been claimed to be Russian assets and backed by Russia.

All by whom? Bernie spelled it out
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
Except Laissez faire capitalism is not equal to greed. Something Marx perhaps failed to learn.

If it's not greed then what is it? Because it really looks like greed to me. Maybe the words of one of the greatest critics of the laissez faire capitalists will convince you, "there's a reason.":

 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
Biden is the choice of the establishment democrats for the safe dem voters who wish to continue the status quo. Bernie Sanders represents actual change and challenging the system.

Bernie may represent something other than the status quo but unless you caucus with the establishment you will never get anything done in DC. I'd rather have Biden over Trump a thousand times over!!
 

Maximus

the Confessor
Biden is the choice of the establishment democrats for the safe dem voters who wish to continue the status quo. Bernie Sanders represents actual change and challenging the system.
If you want to get down to it Trump and Bernie Sanders have a lot in common despite their political differences.
Both have:
-Been vilified in certain establishment democrat serving media
- had it intimated that they were Nazis
- been claimed to be Russian assets and backed by Russia.

All by whom? Bernie spelled it out

There is some truth in what you say here (and Biden is not my ideal candidate, that's for sure). I was just pointing out that Trump knows that his biggest threat is Biden, according to the swing state polls
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
If it's not greed then what is it? Because it really looks like greed to me. Maybe the words of one of the greatest critics of the laissez faire capitalists will convince you, "there's a reason.":


A rant against the government. I'm certainly no fan of the government. Didn't hear the word capitalism once though.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
A rant against the government. I'm certainly no fan of the government. Didn't hear the word capitalism once though.

The whole bit about the lobbyists. The problems with our country are not rocket science. The billionaires and CEOs pay the lobbyists to pass legislation creating cartels and monopolies in exchange for campaign financing. This allows the corporations to gouge the consumer by fixing the price for goods and services. Combine this with the price fixing of wages coming from data being published by the bureau of labor statistics and you get this curve:

Quandl

In the past 50 years of me being political aware there has only been one 4-year period where the purchasing power of the dollar went up. Every other four year period the workers of this country are screwed with a giant red, white, and blue ramrod as George Carlin has stated.

The citizen making the median wage has practically zero political power bordering on slavery. The 1936 words of FDR are more true today than when he spoke them:

"An old English judge once said: 'Necessitous men are not free men.' Liberty requires opportunity to make a living - a living decent according to the standard of the time, a living which gives man not only enough to live by, but something to live for.

For too many of us the political equality we once had won was meaningless in the face of economic inequality. A small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete control over other people's property, other people's money, other people's labor - other people's lives. For too many of us life was no longer free; liberty no longer real; men could no longer follow the pursuit of happiness.

Against economic tyranny such as this, the American citizen could appeal only to the organized power of government."

The problem is so far worse than anyone is willing to admit or imagine:


I would love for Bernie Sanders to become president. The problem is Bernie might win the popular vote but not Electoral College. Biden seems to be the best candidate with swing voters in red states. Trump's American style fascism scares the crap out of me. I would rather have Biden as president than see Bernie win the nomination. There's too much at stake. Although, I found the views Bernie conveys in this video to be spot on:


As I said I would love to see Sanders win. I agree with much of what he is saying in the Joe Rogan interview. The problem is what George Carlin was saying. The REAL owners of this country would NEVER allow Sanders to become president.
 
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