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Best places to live in the USA?

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
College towns are even better without the students.
Go summer!
so are resort towns...except better without the tourists/vacationers.... some of which are students

But college towns in summer....Boston.... and yes, as much as it pains me to admit this, I agree
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Live in a college town. Just in general. Things you'll tend to see in a well-educated college town community:
  • More high quality and niche interest locally owned businesses that you typically only find in a big city
  • Excellent public transportation systems because they are needed to serve the students
  • A very active local community scene that puts on art festivals, special events, markets, and more
  • More cultural diversity because colleges and universities attract and employ internationals
  • A taxpayer base who is willing and able to support great public works projects to improve city amenities
I love living in a college town. It's part of why I'm still here. Great public and civic services, some of the best in the nation public transit, excellent seasonal farmer's markets, many cultural centers, tons of ethnic food stores, lots of really great and unique local businesses... it's like how it was when I lived around a big city for a few years except without all the PITA that comes with big cities. Seriously, live in a college town.
I live in Columbus, OH, right by the main OSU campus which is the one of the nation's largest universities. It's basically an overgrown college town that is trying to act like a big city. This city has the worst public transit I've ever seen. The OSU campus has its own campus transit service that only they can use. This dump is very cheap when it comes to spending on public services and infrastructure and is unwalkable (it's honestly very terrifying being a pedestrian here). Definitely can't recommend it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
so are resort towns...except better without the tourists/vacationers.... some of which are students

But college towns in summer....Boston.... and yes, as much as it pains me to admit this, I agree
Boston can be nice?
That never occurred to me.
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
My sincere apologies. I'm embarrassed to say I misread your post and thought you were dunking on the coast.
Oh, no! Quite the opposite! I was saying the coastal areas are the best places to live. Lol. Sorry for being less clear. East Coast, West Coast, the Gulf, etc. They're all so naturally beautiful and have great cultures, imo. Something about water, I guess.
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
But what are the nicest places to live?

Native Californian here, and I'd pick the West Coast. I've traveled over the years from San Diego to just short of the Canadian border and loved it all. Considered a move to Seattle pre-tech era but never made the jump.
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
Oh, no! Quite the opposite! I was saying the coastal areas are the best places to live. Lol. Sorry for being less clear. East Coast, West Coast, the Gulf, etc. They're all so naturally beautiful and have great cultures, imo. Something about water, I guess.

Thanks, I was too jumpy, even so. Too many years of being looked down on online for being a Californian, I guess.

Yes, the water, the salt air especially, the horizon, the feeling of being on the edge of a continent, all of it. After all those sunsets over the water, someday I'd like to get to the east coast for the sunrise.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I've been to SF.
Nice place to visit, but no place to live.
Too spendy.
Vexing legal restrictions.
Far from most places I want to be.
Midwest is best.
The tech morons drove the cost of living up. But it doesn't matter now, because it's the same with all the big cities being too expensive now.

The Midwest is a hellhole, imo. You can have it. Lol
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The tech morons drove the cost of living up. But it doesn't matter now, because it's the same with all the big cities being too expensive now.

The Midwest is a hellhole, imo. You can have it. Lol
Pretty smart for morons.

Whether heaven or hell,
we make it so for ourselves.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Yes, the water, the salt air especially, the horizon, the feeling of being on the edge of a continent, all of it. After all those sunsets over the water, someday I'd like to get to the east coast for the sunrise.
Indeed. I remember those beautiful sunsets over Ocean Beach when I was a kid, watching the sun roll over the water and disappear. I just love the feeling of infinity you get staring at the point where the sky and the ocean meet at the horizon. It's awe-inspiring. :)
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
Indeed. I remember those beautiful sunsets over Ocean Beach when I was a kid, watching the sun roll over the water and disappear. I just love the feeling of infinity you get staring at the point where the sky and the ocean meet at the horizon. It's awe-inspiring. :)

It is. I didn't make it quite that far over yet, but I've walked over the Bay Bridge, and there's nothing like the view in and of San Francisco. I grew up in San Diego, it's just a very different place, here and there. There's something magical about San Francisco.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Pretty smart for morons.

Whether heaven or hell,
we make it so for ourselves.
No, Ohio just really sucks. It's flat and boring with no natural beauty. The natural beauty that existed beforehand was forest, which has mostly been destroyed to make way for endless ugly strip malls, parking lots, corporate parks, etc. There's not much to do here besides go to bars, so everyone is an alcoholic, really. The weather is crap all the time and all over the place, even within the same day. The city is more than unwalkable, it's positively anti-pedestrian (a lot of streets don't even have sidewalks or curbs), and everything is spread out. As for the people...well, I've never seen so much racism in my life before coming here - from both blacks and whites. Etc. I could go on. You can't make lemonade when you're not given lemons, but a pile of crap.

The only people who like it are people from here who never really left. Even a lot of people from here hate it and are trying to leave. Almost everyone I've met here that's from somewhere else regrets coming here.

I know you're in Michigan, though. So I can't speak to that.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
It is. I didn't make it quite that far over yet, but I've walked over the Bay Bridge, and there's nothing like the view in and of San Francisco. I grew up in San Diego, it's just a very different place, here and there. There's something magical about San Francisco.
It is certainly one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Yeah, it's going through tough times but honestly, the same problems there are happening in all the big cities across the country. It'll pass. I'd still rather be there than here. I'm going back in the next few years.

I'd love to see San Diego. My mom was born there as she was a Navy brat.
 
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