Better Than You

[The Hammer]

We, the ones who really are superior,
do not lord it over others. We care.

Is that so.

What is "superiority".

 

[Revoltingest]

Is that so.

It's true.
You can search RF posts, but never will you
find us claiming we're superior. One could say....
Don't claim it. Be it.

Hmmm....sounds like a Dr Frankenfurter song.

 

[The Hammer]

It's true.
You can search RF posts, but never will you
find us claiming we're superior. One could say....
Don't claim it. Be it.

Hmmm....sounds like a Dr Frankenfurter song.

Does name color, denote ones seniority status?

 

[stevecanuck]

When I was a young man and a Muslim I seethed with contempt for most other religions. I couldn't stand polytheists and would constantly enter into debates with them. I hated idols, I hated anyone who wasn't abrahamic and i really hated anyone who rejected Islam.

Verses that tell you unbelievers are "the worst of God's creatures" were clearly drummed into your head from the cradle. I'm so glad for you to have escaped. Do you mind telling us where you grew up?

 

[osgart]

If a person is busy not making others better, but merely rubbing something intellectual in other people's faces their superiority is a sham.

Arrogance is the mark of those who couldn't care less about others misfortunes.

I would say those that are truly superior are those of great charity, and compassion.

The virtues don't belong to an exclusive club, instead they reach out to all life and whomsoever will abide in their truth.

Only real criminals make themselves less than others by robbing others of life.

That's pretty much how I feel about that.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Oh, I think there is definitely reason to be frustrated by some religions/religious people. The problem is when people let that frustration grow so it colors and distorts their perception of all religion/religious people and even their perception of themselves.

Well I doubt most non-believers on here judge the average Muslim by the Taliban, although it seems many will place all atheists in some particular place. Interesting to know how those with religious beliefs perceive themselves, given they do know there are so many conflicting religious beliefs in the world.

 

[Left Coast]

Well I doubt most non-believers on here judge the average Muslim by the Taliban, although it seems many will place all atheists in some particular place.

I was talking about non-believers in general, not just specifically here.

If i had a dime for every time some atheist has said "Religion is/Religious people are..." followed by some negative stereotype, I'd be rich. Point is, we all are susceptible to typical ingroup/outgroup thinking. Irreligious folks are not immune.

 

[InChrist]

I had to deal with a very unpleasant person today.

Its a long story, but what I walked away from in my interaction with them was that they had the belief that anyone who didn't subscribe to one of the world's 'great faiths' was a deplorable individual, without any worth to society as a whole.

(In response, I went out and bought a litter box with room for ten litter boxes.... been getting that loaded up this evening.)

I might be okay, in their book, but any religious minorities, not so much. I didn't care she'd okayed me, the way she spoke about others(which includes people close to me) was unacceptable. Luckily, I will likely never be in contact with them again, but, it raises another question for me.

Many people feel their faith/nonfaith is superior. I get why those thoughts may come up. But thinking you, as a person, are better than people in other or specific faiths... that seems, well, yucky.

What do you think? Regardless of what your religious(or nonreligious belief) is, do you feel you're better than people in other worldviews? If so, is it people in specific faiths that you feel superior to, or anyone in any other faith?

No, I don’t feel better than anyone. That is what I appreciate about real Christianity; meaning Jesus Christ alone. Some who practice Christianity in only the religious sense often feel superior in their efforts or good works.
As one saved by Jesus I realized and fully understand that I was lost and helpless. According to the scriptures, everyone is in the same predicament. No one is any better than anyone else. Christ saved me. I can take no credit myself and am in no position to look down on others.

 

[DharmaCatLamp]

Verses that tell you unbelievers are "the worst of God's creatures" were clearly drummed into your head from the cradle. I'm so glad for you to have escaped. Do you mind telling us where you grew up?

Well you say clearly but I grew up in a non muslim family and I converted. I grew up in the united states but happened to get in with wahabis.

 

[stevecanuck]

Well you say clearly but I grew up in a non muslim family and I converted. I grew up in the united states but happened to get in with wahabis.

Fair enough. You got in with people who had it drummed into their heads, and then they infected you with their hatred. I have found that Western converts can be the worst because they feel they have a lifetime of infidelity to make up for. Is that what you felt?

 

[Revoltingest]

Does name color, denote ones seniority status?

I'm yellow simply because all white Simpsons characters are.

 

[DNB]

I had to deal with a very unpleasant person today.

Its a long story, but what I walked away from in my interaction with them was that they had the belief that anyone who didn't subscribe to one of the world's 'great faiths' was a deplorable individual, without any worth to society as a whole.

(In response, I went out and bought a litter box with room for ten litter boxes.... been getting that loaded up this evening.)

I might be okay, in their book, but any religious minorities, not so much. I didn't care she'd okayed me, the way she spoke about others(which includes people close to me) was unacceptable. Luckily, I will likely never be in contact with them again, but, it raises another question for me.

Many people feel their faith/nonfaith is superior. I get why those thoughts may come up. But thinking you, as a person, are better than people in other or specific faiths... that seems, well, yucky.

What do you think? Regardless of what your religious(or nonreligious belief) is, do you feel you're better than people in other worldviews? If so, is it people in specific faiths that you feel superior to, or anyone in any other faith?

Not better, but better off.
...why else would I subscribe to a particular faith?

 

[JustGeorge]

Not better, but better off.
...why else would I subscribe to a particular faith?

I think its somewhat normal(though it may not apply to everyone) to think one's chosen faith/non faith is superior(because, like you say, why would you have picked it?).

I don't really understand why holding a belief makes a person feel that they are superior to others, though.

 

[viole]

I think its somewhat normal(though it may not apply to everyone) to think one's chosen faith/non faith is superior(because, like you say, why would you have picked it?).

I don't really understand why holding a belief makes a person feel that they are superior to others, though.

Unless they believe to be superior. In that case, the belief entails the feeling of superiority.

ciao

- viole

 

[JustGeorge]

Unless they believe to be superior. In that case, the belief entails the feeling of superiority.

ciao

- viole

Can you give an example?

 

[viole]

Can you give an example?

I don’t know. I could believe to be superior. And then I would probably act as if I were superior.

ciao

- viole

 

[JustGeorge]

I don’t know. I could believe to be superior. And then I would probably act as if I were superior.

ciao

- viole

That's true. It wouldn't necessarily be correct, though.

Reminds me of a friend I have. She believes she's an excellent cook.

Fried raw rice and canned squid boiled in its own ink is just not... edible. For most of us.

 

[DNB]

I think its somewhat normal(though it may not apply to everyone) to think one's chosen faith/non faith is superior(because, like you say, why would you have picked it?).

I don't really understand why holding a belief makes a person feel that they are superior to others, though.

Yes, you are correct, ...unless that there was some initiation process that not all prospects qualified for, ...i say this for the sake of argument..
But, if we are discussing things that are in the realm of divine and supernatural beings, then, of course, there is no room for arrogance or self-righteousness - all humans are feeble and insignificant in regard to their transcendent Maker.

...self-righteousness is blatant evidence of guilt and hypocrisy, their rejection is imminent.

 

[Clara Tea]

I had to deal with a very unpleasant person today.

Its a long story, but what I walked away from in my interaction with them was that they had the belief that anyone who didn't subscribe to one of the world's 'great faiths' was a deplorable individual, without any worth to society as a whole.

(In response, I went out and bought a litter box with room for ten litter boxes.... been getting that loaded up this evening.)

I might be okay, in their book, but any religious minorities, not so much. I didn't care she'd okayed me, the way she spoke about others(which includes people close to me) was unacceptable. Luckily, I will likely never be in contact with them again, but, it raises another question for me.

Many people feel their faith/nonfaith is superior. I get why those thoughts may come up. But thinking you, as a person, are better than people in other or specific faiths... that seems, well, yucky.

What do you think? Regardless of what your religious(or nonreligious belief) is, do you feel you're better than people in other worldviews? If so, is it people in specific faiths that you feel superior to, or anyone in any other faith?

Well, we can't all be perfect.

Christian qualifications:

1. Move boy molesting priests to other parishes where they could molest more.
2. Global warming is a hoax (as Trump said last week)--Trump is a super-genius, and also said that covid would be over in 2 weeks.
3. Deny that covid is a problem (they blast democrats for insisting on masks)
4. Condoms encourge/condone sex (opponents say they cut STDS and prevent unwanted pregancies)
5. Science is evil and wrong (universe created 6,000 years ago, Jonah lived in a whale).
6. Must mix religion and politics, ignore the separation of church and state that allows all to worship freely, win presidency, have recall elections for democrats (but not republicans), appoint justices for life.
7. Ban Gay marriages (inheritance, child custody)
8. Destroy God's environment (frack, offshore drill, to gain mammon which they love more than God)
9. Accept all of God's children (except illegal Mexicans who are all criminals?) Build expensive wall, though Republicans in Congress think that it is too expensive, so drain funds not intended for a wall.
10. Support gun rights. War hero Kerry was not qualified, though he went hunting during the campaign (NRA opposes democrats, regardless of gun support). Guns don't kill, people do.
11. Deregulate government to cut taxes (mostly for the rich). Deregulated banks failed under Reagan/Bush, and FSLIC went broke, and FDIC was bailed out, though Republicans wanted to let it fail, which would have undermined faith in US currency.
12. Blame others (economy failed in 2008, blamed on Clinton because Republicans in Congress removed fast track trade power (which balanced trade at the president's discretion)).
13. Set up democrats for failure even if it hurts the United States.
14. Wars (Afghanistan and Iraq not involved with terrorism, and almost lied us into war with Niger over yellow cake Uranium, but Wilson refused to lie, so Wife Plame outed as CIA).
15. Torture camps
16. Murder dissenters (International Red Cross reported US troops tortured Iraqis in Iraq until IRC men were murdered by US forces (friendly fire)).
17. Take away right of redress of grievances (right to sue HMOs, said to be frivolous).
18. Take away free speech and free press. Though Trump was banned from Facebook and Twitted for making false statesments.
19. Pendantic, overbearing, smug, arrogant, prostelytizing (consistent with humble????).
20. Run everything...presidency....other nations (consistent with humble???)

 

[Clara Tea]

That's true. It wouldn't necessarily be correct, though.

Reminds me of a friend I have. She believes she's an excellent cook.

Fried raw rice and canned squid boiled in its own ink is just not... edible. For most of us.

Italian food....linguini.....but actually inkguini. Raw rice is diet food (indigestible).