Better to run away and live in peace or fight back?

[Theweirdtophat]

Sometimes I wonder which is really the better decision. Imagine if you were in a totalitarian, nazi, north korean-like country. You knew things were corrupt and you knew what was going on but what would be the best thing to do? Would it be best to run and live somewhere free, in the wilderness, free to live your life where you most likely would not be harassed?

Or would it be better to risk it all and try to fight back? Many would like to live in peace. Some say it's best to "tend to your own garden" so to speak. But sometimes I feel it'd be better to fight back because running won't stop the corruption around you and there's a chance you can get hunted down anyway.

Would it be better to stand your ground? Would you do it or take the chance to run off somewhere where you could be free.

I just know I would not be a part of it. Many would choose to be enslaved, mostly for their family's sake but I find it pointless because then you and your family would live a life of misery, being enslaved and might end up getting killed anyway, so it wouldn't matter anymore. It'd be preferable to fight and do something.

What would you do in such a state?

 

[pearl]

What is the saying?, evil spreads because good people do nothing? Its like trying to ignore a cancer, unless its cut out it devours all.

 

[FearGod]

Sometimes I wonder which is really the better decision. Imagine if you were in a totalitarian, nazi, north korean-like country. You knew things were corrupt and you knew what was going on but what would be the best thing to do? Would it be best to run and live somewhere free, in the wilderness, free to live your life where you most likely would not be harassed?

Or would it be better to risk it all and try to fight back? Many would like to live in peace. Some say it's best to "tend to your own garden" so to speak. But sometimes I feel it'd be better to fight back because running won't stop the corruption around you and there's a chance you can get hunted down anyway.

Would it be better to stand your ground? Would you do it or take the chance to run off somewhere where you could be free.

I just know I would not be a part of it. Many would choose to be enslaved, mostly for their family's sake but I find it pointless because then you and your family would live a life of misery, being enslaved and might end up getting killed anyway, so it wouldn't matter anymore. It'd be preferable to fight and do something.

What would you do in such a state?

Run away and let the others fight if they wish.

 

[Theweirdtophat]

Running may ensure your survival unless they somehow come for you unless they never knew where you were or left. But running does not stop evil though.

 

[Kemosloby]

Maybe you could pretend to be one, infiltrate and sabotage. Or run and fight when they come after you, pick em off one by one.

 

[metis]

To the OP, fight back but do so peacefully, imo.

 

[bobhikes]

Sometimes I wonder which is really the better decision. Imagine if you were in a totalitarian, nazi, north korean-like country. You knew things were corrupt and you knew what was going on but what would be the best thing to do? Would it be best to run and live somewhere free, in the wilderness, free to live your life where you most likely would not be harassed?

Or would it be better to risk it all and try to fight back? Many would like to live in peace. Some say it's best to "tend to your own garden" so to speak. But sometimes I feel it'd be better to fight back because running won't stop the corruption around you and there's a chance you can get hunted down anyway.

Would it be better to stand your ground? Would you do it or take the chance to run off somewhere where you could be free.

I just know I would not be a part of it. Many would choose to be enslaved, mostly for their family's sake but I find it pointless because then you and your family would live a life of misery, being enslaved and might end up getting killed anyway, so it wouldn't matter anymore. It'd be preferable to fight and do something.

What would you do in such a state?

You need to be true to yourself. If you try and do different because you feel others believe it is right it won't work. I'm a fighter and would rather go out in glory then live a pacifist life but at times I can see the negativity in that. Our goal is to be happy with ourselves. Our challenge is to try and do it so others are happy. We will never be able to do both successfully.

 

[BSM1]

There can be no peace for you if you are not free. There are far worse things in this life than dying. Like the man said, I would rather die standing then live kneeling.

 

[Quintessence]

Would it be best to run and live somewhere free, in the wilderness, free to live your life where you most likely would not be harassed?

If only it were that simple. The obsession with these things called countries and borders makes this an impractical choice at best. One has to go through a legal obstacle course to flee one's country and be welcomed in another.

Or would it be better to risk it all and try to fight back? Many would like to live in peace. Some say it's best to "tend to your own garden" so to speak. But sometimes I feel it'd be better to fight back because running won't stop the corruption around you and there's a chance you can get hunted down anyway.

If only it were that simple. Fighting back won't magically fix the corruption either. In many cases, it doesn't accomplish much of anything and can serve to make matters worse for others.

Honestly, both of the options you present are attempts at a quick fix for challenges that do not have not quick fixes. Neither fight nor flight are wise options. But the human animal evolved for fight or flight responses and quick fix thinking. That works well for most day-to-day issues that arise, but not so much for challenges that take significant time to resolve, like the scenario here. One is better served by taking the long-view rather than look for short-term fixes. Big changes to how a nation governs will typically take a generation or more to implement and settle.

Thus to me the question is "what role do I play in that transformation?" The answer to that question is personal and not for me to proclaim for someone else.

 

[Mindmaster]

Or would it be better to risk it all and try to fight back? Many would like to live in peace. Some say it's best to "tend to your own garden" so to speak. But sometimes I feel it'd be better to fight back because running won't stop the corruption around you and there's a chance you can get hunted down anyway.

I think if you can't fight for it you don't really want it, lol. People gripe about things, but those really suffering don't even have to think about the next course of action.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I can't imagine that whatever anyone would actually do in real life would necessarily resemble what they say they would do here.

In general, the more unlikely a hypothetical scenario, the more I tend to think people's responses are more divergent from what would actually happen in reality.

 

[BSM1]

I can't imagine that whatever anyone would actually do in real life would necessarily resemble what they say they would do here.

In general, the more unlikely a hypothetical scenario, the more I tend to think people's responses are more divergent from what would actually happen in reality.

You may very well be right. let us pray that we are never in this position.

 

[Theweirdtophat]

If only it were that simple. The obsession with these things called countries and borders makes this an impractical choice at best. One has to go through a legal obstacle course to flee one's country and be welcomed in another.



If only it were that simple. Fighting back won't magically fix the corruption either. In many cases, it doesn't accomplish much of anything and can serve to make matters worse for others.

Honestly, both of the options you present are attempts at a quick fix for challenges that do not have not quick fixes. Neither fight nor flight are wise options. But the human animal evolved for fight or flight responses and quick fix thinking. That works well for most day-to-day issues that arise, but not so much for challenges that take significant time to resolve, like the scenario here. One is better served by taking the long-view rather than look for short-term fixes. Big changes to how a nation governs will typically take a generation or more to implement and settle.

Thus to me the question is "what role do I play in that transformation?" The answer to that question is personal and not for me to proclaim for someone else.

I think perhaps it's more simple than people think. That's what people do anyway when such a thing happens. In such situations like this you have people that run away, stay and fight or stay and be enslaved. No it doesn't fix the corruption all of a sudden but it cleans it out. But staying and doing nothing also doesn't fix it either. At least when you fight you stand a chance of not having history repeat itself. Better than being a sitting duck. Having some chance is better than no chance

 

[Neo Deist]

Slaughter any who oppose you. Overthrow the government/monarchy. Establish yourself as the supreme ruler and do things your way.

 

[Quintessence]

At least when you fight you stand a chance of not having history repeat itself.

I'm not sure I follow. Isn't history littered with example of people doing exactly this? Fighting is history repeating itself as much as not fighting.

Better than being a sitting duck. Having some chance is better than no chance

If that's the narrative you want to tell about it. That is a value assessment though - one that others might disagree with. I'm sure that many would tell stories of the value of keeping one's head down and that behavior providing some chance rather than no chance.

 

[Theweirdtophat]

I'm not sure I follow. Isn't history littered with example of people doing exactly this? Fighting is history repeating itself as much as not fighting.



If that's the narrative you want to tell about it. That is a value assessment though - one that others might disagree with. I'm sure that many would tell stories of the value of keeping one's head down and that behavior providing some chance rather than no chance.

It's never the exact same thing. Sometimes the reasons and the causes are different, even if the execution is the same.

Some will disagree but that goes without saying. Many I'm sure enjoy being enslaved and told what to do. I'm not one of them. Running away saves your own life and possibly your family's life and loved ones and friends but it doesn't save everyone else.