bible says god is immortal

[life.period]

Bible says god is mortal

God doesn't die , no one can see


1 Timothy 6:16New International Version (NIV)
16 who alone is immortalA) and who lives in unapproachable light,B)" "> whom no one has seen or can see.

Jesus die and every one sew him according to bible. So he is not god.


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[McBell]

Perhaps you could clarify what it is you are talking about?

 

[life.period]

Perhaps you could clarify what it is you are talking about?

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Christian believe jesus is god and God died ( jesus is died ) while there book says god doesn't die / immortal

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[YmirGF]

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Christian believe jesus is god and God died ( jesus is died ) while there book says god doesn't die / immortal

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Superficial pond-skimmers might think that, but the whole idea is much more complex than your average Muslim seems capable of understanding. I'm an atheist, btw, so don't bother throwing somebody's scripture at me. Exit question: Why is it that so many Muslims feel a need to put down other religions? Insecurity?

 

[life.period]

Superficial pond-skimmers might think that, but the whole idea is much more complex than your average Muslim seems capable of understanding. I'm an atheist, btw, so don't bother throwing somebody's scripture at me. Exit question: Why is it that so many Muslims feel a need to put down other religions? Insecurity?

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[YmirGF]

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Not only do you not know your Christian theology, but you also don't know cartoon characters. I can hardly wait for some Christian members to join in. This ought to be most amusing.

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[moorea944]

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Christian believe jesus is god and God died ( jesus is died ) while there book says god doesn't die / immortal

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Some Christians believe believe that Jesus is God. I dont believe in that and I dont read that at all in scripture. GOD (Yahweh), is immortal and always has been. He is the only one that has always been immortal too. God cannot die or sin.

Jesus was mortal like us, same nature (Heb 2), now is immortal and is in heaven. He is the "son of God", not God the Son.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Bible says god is mortal

God doesn't die , no one can see


1 Timothy 6:16New International Version (NIV)
16 who alone is immortalA) and who lives in unapproachable light,B)" "> whom no one has seen or can see.

Jesus die and every one sew him according to bible. So he is not god.


This in your bible not my words

If you believe in bible , you shall believe in bible content

Paul has a tendency to avoid scriptures that directly contradict him. He either is not reading canon material or is lying about it or is just making stuff up.

Who said gods have to be immortal? Yahweh was once in the Council of El, per Psalms. Since the other gods were assumed to exist until monotheism was invented, they are either being ignored currently or they are dead now or what?

Who said God is in unapproachable light? He walks in the Garden of Eden, has a small wrestling match with Jacob, shows Moses His backside, etc. Jesus also said the pure in heart will see God. Clearly, God is not as stand-offish as many like to claim He is.

Jesus appeared to die, anyway. The Gospel of John, of which I'm certainly not a fan, does hint that there is the possibility (though the author wouldn't have known the underlying cause) that the Roman who stabbed Jesus actually did him a favor medically speaking and he simply recovered from unconsciousness after 3 days. It's not like anyone used an EKG or EEG on Jesus or anything to prove death, right? Resurrection, though, doesn't prove anything, as many have been brought back to life PLUS there were at least two who skipped death altogether and THEY aren't called gods, so clearly waking back up is not proof of divinity.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

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This from someone whose grasp of scripture can't get off the ground.

 

[Ben Avraham]

The Bible says God is Immortal and...

...His attribute of immortality could not be shared with men. Evidence! When Adam & Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden, the reason was to prevent them from eating of the tree of life
and live forever. (Genesis 3:22,23) Hence, God alone is immortal.

 

[12jtartar]

The Bible says God is Immortal and...

...His attribute of immortality could not be shared with men. Evidence! When Adam & Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden, the reason was to prevent them from eating of the tree of life
and live forever. (Genesis 3:22,23) Hence, God alone is immortal.

Ben Avraham,
It is true that the Bible says that God alone has immortality. That does not mean that He alone will ever have immortality. The Bible says that God HAS immortality, which means that He owns immortality, and can give it to whomever He wants to.
At Romans 6:9 the Bible tells us that Jesus was raised from the dead, never to die again. That means that Jesus was given immortality. The same is true of the Saints that are resurrected with Jesus to be Kings and Priests in heaven, who are also given immortality, 1Corinthians 15:51-54, Revelation 5:9,10, 20:4-6. Notice that the Scriptures say that these cannot be harmed by the second death. That is because they are resurrected as spirit creatures, and will be immortal, 1Peter 3:18, Romans 6:5.

 

[Ben Avraham]

Ben Avraham,
It is true that the Bible says that God alone has immortality. That does not mean that He alone will ever have immortality. The Bible says that God HAS immortality, which means that He owns immortality, and can give it to whomever He wants to.
At Romans 6:9 the Bible tells us that Jesus was raised from the dead, never to die again. That means that Jesus was given immortality. The same is true of the Saints that are resurrected with Jesus to be Kings and Priests in heaven, who are also given immortality, 1Corinthians 15:51-54, Revelation 5:9,10, 20:4-6. Notice that the Scriptures say that these cannot be harmed by the second death. That is because they are resurrected as spirit creatures, and will be immortal, 1Peter 3:18, Romans 6:5.

Your first two statements above make absolutely no sense. "The Bible says that God alone has immortality". Then you disregard that by saying that God alone does not have immortality. I am aware that God is all powerful and He can give whatever He wants to whomever He pleases but not what you wish He did or should have done. That's not how God works. You mean the NT tells us that Jesus was raised from the dead. Of course I know that! What you perhaps do not know is that Paul confessed to his disciple Timothy that it was according to his own gospel aka Paul's gospel that Jesus resurrected. (II Timothy 2:8) It means that Paul was the one who fabricated the idea that Jesus had resurrected. The truth though in the gospel of Jesus aka the Tanach is that once dead, no one will ever return from the grave if you read II Samuel 12:23; Isaiah 26:14; Job 7:9; Psalm 49:12,20; and many other passages. Spirits are not creatures but emanations and, emanations do not bodily resurrect. This is possible only in the NT which is based on Hellenism which teaches about bodily resurrection.

 

[meghanwaterlillies]

Bible says god is mortal

God doesn't die , no one can see


1 Timothy 6:16New International Version (NIV)
16 who alone is immortalA) and who lives in unapproachable light,B)" "> whom no one has seen or can see.

Jesus die and every one sew him according to bible. So he is not god.


This in your bible not my words

If you believe in bible , you shall believe in bible content

No, the jokes on them would God kill His Son?, He's is alive.

 

[meghanwaterlillies]

The Bible says God is Immortal and...

...His attribute of immortality could not be shared with men. Evidence! When Adam & Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden, the reason was to prevent them from eating of the tree of life
and live forever. (Genesis 3:22,23) Hence, God alone is immortal.

So the garden of Eden verses the Tree of life. Whats outside the garden of Eden or better yet why did they get kicked out? Apparently there was more than one reason ..... Its funny because yes God is immortal. But it said unless they eat of the tree of life and live in the issue. So were Adam and Eve immortal before they ate of the tree of knowledge and evil? If yes then who what is the tree of Life?

 

[meghanwaterlillies]

So the garden of Eden verses the Tree of life. Whats outside the garden of Eden or better yet why did they get kicked out? Apparently there was more than one reason ..... Its funny because yes God is immortal. But it said unless they eat of the tree of life and live in the issue. So were Adam and Eve immortal before they ate of the tree of knowledge and evil? If yes then who what is the tree of Life?

LOL

 

[Ben Avraham]

So the garden of Eden verses the Tree of life. Whats outside the garden of Eden or better yet why did they get kicked out? Apparently there was more than one reason ..... Its funny because yes God is immortal. But it said unless they eat of the tree of life and live in the issue. So were Adam and Eve immortal before they ate of the tree of knowledge and evil? If yes then who what is the tree of Life?

Yes, the tree of life also grew from the middle of the Garden of Eden just like the tree of knowledge. It means that the two most important things in the life of man to be always focused upon are knowledge and life. According to the Genesis allegory of
creation, man had gone for knowledge and, before he turned to eternal life by eating of the tree of life, he was banished from the Garden of Eden just to indicate that he could not live forever. (Genesis 3:22,23) That's the reason why they both were
kicked out. No, Adam and Eve were not immortal before they ate of the tree of life. They were just not old enough to die. The tree of life was the attribute of eternal life that could not be shared with man.

 

[meghanwaterlillies]

Yes, the tree of life also grew from the middle of the Garden of Eden just like the tree of knowledge. It means that the two most important things in the life of man to be always focused upon are knowledge and life. According to the Genesis allegory of
creation, man had gone for knowledge and, before he turned to eternal life by eating of the tree of life, he was banished from the Garden of Eden just to indicate that he could not live forever. (Genesis 3:22,23) That's the reason why they both were
kicked out. No, Adam and Eve were not immortal before they ate of the tree of life. They were just not old enough to die. The tree of life was the attribute of eternal life that could not be shared with man.

So then the warning that God said ye shall surly die means that God; like what the serpant said; lied?

 

[Ben Avraham]

So then the warning that God said ye shall surly die means that God; like what the serpant said; lied?

Are you sure the serpent lied? God said: "As soon as you eat of the tree, you shall die." Did Adam die as soon as he ate of the tree? No, he didn't. So, the serpent did not lie when she said that Adam & Eve would not did when they ate of the tree of knowledge. Now, how about God? Did He lie? No, He didn't either. Have you ever heard about a Catch-22? That's what the thing was all about. A Catch-22. A commandment to be obeyed by doing the opposite of what was ordained.
How could one die by achieving knowledge? The opposite is rather true as life is rather promoted with knowledge. We see evidence of this every day. I am posting a thread about Catch-22 with reference to what happened in the Garden of Eden so you can understand this better. The reference is in last paragraph.

 

[moorea944]

Are you sure the serpent lied? God said: "As soon as you eat of the tree, you shall die." Did Adam die as soon as he ate of the tree? No, he didn't. So, the serpent did not lie when she said that Adam & Eve would not did when they ate of the tree of knowledge. Now, how about God? Did He lie? No, He didn't either. Have you ever heard about a Catch-22? That's what the thing was all about. A Catch-22. A commandment to be obeyed by doing the opposite of what was ordained.
How could one die by achieving knowledge? The opposite is rather true as life is rather promoted with knowledge. We see evidence of this every day. I am posting a thread about Catch-22 with reference to what happened in the Garden of Eden so you can understand this better. The reference is in last paragraph.

Are you sure the serpent lied? God said: "As soon as you eat of the tree, you shall die."

No, what was said was, "for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die". God was right in saying that too. Adam did die.

Did Adam die as soon as he ate of the tree? No, he didn't.

Why does Adam "have to " die as soon as he eats. God didnt say that. God said that he was die and he did.

So, the serpent did not lie when she said that Adam & Eve would not did when they ate of the tree of knowledge.

What was the serpents lie? He told them that they wouldnt die and then that your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods (Elohim or angels), knowing good and evil. That was a lie too.

How could one die by achieving knowledge?

Your completely missing the point. God commanded them not to do something and they broke that promise. They broke God's law. They sinned. There is no Catch-22 here at all.

 

[Deeje]

Yes, the tree of life also grew from the middle of the Garden of Eden just like the tree of knowledge. It means that the two most important things in the life of man to be always focused upon are knowledge and life.

First of all, it wasn't just "the tree of knowledge". It was a specific kind of knowledge that this tree represented. It was knowledge that God deemed to be unnecessary to humans and even detrimental to them. It was knowledge that God wanted to keep to himself, but as free willed beings, they had to decide whether they would respect God's property and his law or whether they would disobey his direct command and rebel. Was the devil lying? Would they become "like God, knowing good and bad"? Would they die as God said? Or live as the devil promised?
We all know what they chose to do and what the consequences were. Being "dead" to God can mean being out of his divine favor. Adam and his wife "died" to God on that day.....and no human has lived more than "a day" in God's estimation of time. (2 Peter 3:8)

Ephesians 2:1-3 NET
"And although you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you formerly lived according to this world’s present path, according to the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the ruler of the spirit that is now energizing the sons of disobedience, 3 among whom all of us also formerly lived out our lives in the cravings of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath even as the rest…"

According to the Genesis allegory of creation, man had gone for knowledge and, before he turned to eternal life by eating of the tree of life, he was banished from the Garden of Eden just to indicate that he could not live forever. (Genesis 3:22,23)

In God's original purpose, man was designed to live forever.....this is not immortality, but life everlasting. Immortal beings cannot die. Mortal beings were given the opportunity of never dying. They were provided with everything they needed to physically keep living. There was no death mentioned in Eden EXCEPT as a penalty for disobedience. The "tree of life" was their guarantee that they would never die. Being barred from that tree meant that sin would eventually take their life....and there was nothing they could do to prevent death from overtaking them. Jesus came to rescue Adam's children from that death sentence and restore what Adam lost for them.....everlasting life.

That's the reason why they both were kicked out. No, Adam and Eve were not immortal before they ate of the tree of life. They were just not old enough to die. The tree of life was the attribute of eternal life that could not be shared with man.

"Not old enough to die"? They were not created to die...EVER! There is no 'program' for death in humankind. It is as unnatural to us today as it was to Adam and his wife. Being made in God's image means that we too can live and serve our God for as long as we live.....for eternity.

Not understanding the difference between "everlasting life" and "immortality" leads people off on a wrong tangent.