Biblical Contradictions

[9Westy9]

And this is what you think she is involved with doing here?
This is a remedial task at best to try and laundry list these beliefs.

There is a difference in telling others about your hope, if you have been asked, and trying to answer a laundry list that is only going to be fuel for negativity by large.

I disagree with you.

So when asked about why she believes the bible she needs to know how to back up a claim that the bible is infallible and without error.

 

[Hawkeye112200]

So when asked about why she believes the bible she needs to know how to back up a claim that the bible is infallible and without error.

Perhaps the biggest and most common folly of all, to think one can answer for the entire bible. Readily what comes to mind is the following:

O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

This poor girl can do as she wishes, but it is easy to let pride get the better of our senses and force us to devote a wasteful amount of time building an upside down pyramid out of sand.

I wish her the best.

 

[Breathe]

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[Vadergirl123]

Yes, that's all true, especially your last paragraph and sentence. It is sad, indeed to need to prove God exists by using 3,000-5,000 year old texts written in virtually alien languages, going through translation after translation.

If one needs to prove the validity of a scripture to prove the existence of God, then that person's faith is not very strong. I have never seen God in any of His forms, but I don't doubt that He exists. Whether the Vedas, Bible, Sutras, Qur'an or Avesta are right or wrong doesn't prove or disprove the existence of God; that's a matter of faith.

But I guess people don't get that.

Oh I'll still believe in a God even if the "contradcitions" are true haha, but I won't know what to believe ABOUT him.(since our knowledge of who God is comes form the bible)

 

[Vadergirl123]

The bible also says not to get caught up in endless arguments about genealogies, and other aspects of the bible.

It is difficult to believe God gets any enjoyment from endless arguments that detract from a life of worship. You have to accept others simply won't believe and will indeed say anything to light a fire under you, and then there will be others that believe. That is life.

My advice, don't put yourself through this.

I honestly don't mind. What harm can it do. Besides I'm pretty sure others have already done this before, so I won't exactly be starting from scratch

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Is it reasonable to assume that you're a creationist who rejects scientific consensus regarding such things as evolution and geology?

 

[Vadergirl123]

No. 5 Who was Abijam's mother. 1kings says Maachah,and 2 chronicles says Michaiah. This can simply be a different way of spelling the same name.

 

[Vadergirl123]

No. 6 How were Abijam and Asa related. (Abijam was his father, or they were brothers b/c they had the same mother)The person who did these contradictions, himslef, admits that it's possible Abijam could've married his own mother, so this isn't really a contradiction...

 

[Vadergirl123]

No. 12 who was Achan's father...One verse reads Achan, the son of Carmi, the son of Zabdi, the son of Zera. The other verse says.."Achan the son of Zerah" This isn't really a contradition, this is just showing a geneology. Achan was descended from Zerah(who was his great-grandfather)

 

[tumbleweed41]

No. 5 Who was Abijam's mother. 1kings says Maachah,and 2 chronicles says Michaiah. This can simply be a different way of spelling the same name.

Maachah- Meaning: Pressed down, Oppressed

Michaiah- Meaning: Who is Like God

 

[Vadergirl123]

No. 13 and 14 have to do with statistical errors in the lists in Ezra 2 and Nehemiah 7. About 17 times the number of people mentioned don't match.This is b/c both books were written in different time periods. (Ezra was written between 538-516 B.C. and Nehemiah was written between 444-425 B.C. So in that time frame people died, families grew, etc.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

No. 5 Who was Abijam's mother. 1kings says Maachah,and 2 chronicles says Michaiah. This can simply be a different way of spelling the same name.

And what of Abishalom and Uriel?

 

[Vadergirl123]

No 17 was Haman an agagite. Esther reads "Haman the son of Hammadatha the agagite." I samuel says that God told Saul to destroy the amelkites. This isn't a contradiction. the agagites and the amalekites aren't the same people. Agag was just the name of their king(that doesn't mean he had a whoel people group named after him)

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

And what of Abishalom and Uriel?

Again: what about Abishalom and Uriel?

 

[Vadergirl123]

Again: what about Abishalom and Uriel?

I'll look into it and post a reply However I'd guess that Abishalom was her mother and Uriel was her father or vice versa...

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

No 17 was Haman an agagite. Esther reads "Haman the son of Hammadatha the agagite." I samuel says that God told Saul to destroy the amelkites. This isn't a contradiction. the agagites and the amalekites aren't the same people. Agag was just the name of their king(that doesn't mean he had a whoel people group named after him)

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Again: what about Abishalom and Uriel?

I'll look into it and post a reply However I'd guess that Abishalom was her mother and Uriel was her father or vice versa...

Actually, I have no doubt that you'll arrive at something considerably more creative, but only by straining credulity beyond all reasonable limits.

There is a wonderful piece that I often quote at times like this:

'Would you tell me please,' said Alice, 'what that means?'

'Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. 'I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.'

'That's a great deal to make one word mean,' Alice said in a thoughtful tone.

'When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'I always pay it extra.'

'Oh!' said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.

'Ah, you should see 'em come round me of a Saturday night,' Humpty Dumpty went on, wagging his head gravely from side to side, 'for to get their wages, you know.'

(Alice didn't venture to ask what he paid them with; and so you see I can't tell you.)

'You seem very clever at explaining words, Sir,' said Alice. 'Would you kindly tell me the meaning of the poem called "Jabberwocky"?' ​

I suspect that you too (with the aid of Google and a rather distasteful cottage industry commited to making contradictions dissapear) will prove yourself very clever at explaining words. I only hope that you do the right thing and pay them considerably extra for doing all that extra work.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I only hope that you do the right thing and pay them considerably extra for doing all that extra work.

(make the check out to Angellous Evangellous)

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

(make the check out to Angellous Evangellous)

Stop yourself! :slap:

 

[Vadergirl123]

Actually, I have no doubt that you'll arrive at something considerably more creative, but only by straining credulity beyond all reasonable limits.

There is a wonderful piece that I often quote at times like this:

'Would you tell me please,' said Alice, 'what that means?'

'Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. 'I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.'

'That's a great deal to make one word mean,' Alice said in a thoughtful tone.

'When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'I always pay it extra.'

'Oh!' said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.

'Ah, you should see 'em come round me of a Saturday night,' Humpty Dumpty went on, wagging his head gravely from side to side, 'for to get their wages, you know.'

(Alice didn't venture to ask what he paid them with; and so you see I can't tell you.)

'You seem very clever at explaining words, Sir,' said Alice. 'Would you kindly tell me the meaning of the poem called "Jabberwocky"?'
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I suspect that you too (with the aid of Google and a rather distasteful cottage industry commited to making contradictions dissapear) will prove yourself very clever at explaining words. I only hope that you do the right thing and pay them considerably extra for doing all that extra work.

Hahaha I am using the internet and books, and the bible itself of course . hahaha people have already refuted these contradictions, and if what they say is true I'll post it. And I don't have to pay them, it's what the sites are for lol. If I were to try to tackle all 463 without knowing all the original Hebrew/greek words, understanding the customs back then, the history, dates, etc I don't think I'd get very far...