Biden administration stops taking applications for student loan handouts aka forgiveness.

[Watchmen]

That's what I'm wondering.

He/she explained.

 

[Watchmen]

No, although I wouldn't put it past a Republican-majority Congress and SCOTUS to work on making that happen under a Republican president.

That would be tragic.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That would be tragic.

It's a very real possibility though.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Why do you sob uncontrollably when an individual state bans plastic bags, but shrug your shoulders when an individual state denies women bodily autonomy?

Of course you think there's a difference when the legal mechanisms of government power and control are the same, so I don't expect you will ever have the capacity see it for what it really is, so you can just continue on with your shallow baby infantile antics.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Digressing from the OP, would you be okay with it if they abolished the 13th amendment and made it a "state matter"?

Except of course as a "punishment for a crime".

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-13/

Interesting.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Your title is hideously misleading. No, the Biden Administration did not stop taking applications because some pissant Texan judge got his panties in a knot. All his little temper tantrum does is delay the process while the Department of Justice appeals to the 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals.

Um they actually stopped taking applications.

 

[Altfish]

Biden administration stops taking applications for student loan forgiveness

Smart move. Thank you Texas.

Why?

This is why.

Snippet....


Pittman ruled that the White House did not have “clear congressional authorization to create a $400 billion student loan program.

“In this country, we are not ruled by an all-powerful executive with a pen and a phone,” Pittman wrote in his order.


Moral of the story? Go through congress first. Not through a centralized political figure like Communist China has.

Against its wishes.
Headline should have been "Judge stops Biden...."

A very sad day

 

[Twilight Hue]

Against its wishes.
Headline should have been "Judge stops Biden...."

A very sad day

A very happy day for state's rights.

 

[Father Heathen]

Of course you think there's a difference when the legal mechanisms of government power and control are the same, so I don't expect you will ever have the capacity see it for what it really is, so you can just continue on with your shallow baby infantile antics.

Try explaining how banning plastic bags is a bigger affront to liberty than denying reproductive rights. You should try thinking critically and objectively rather than blindly following political propaganda. Perhaps then you'll develop a consistent and coherent worldview.

 

[Father Heathen]

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Except of course as a "punishment for a crime".

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-13/

Interesting.

Since you think a state should have the right to deny rights, would you have no qualms if southern states tried to bring back slavery?

 

[wellwisher]

Biden administration stops taking applications for student loan forgiveness

Smart move. Thank you Texas.

Why?

This is why.

Snippet....


Pittman ruled that the White House did not have “clear congressional authorization to create a $400 billion student loan program.

“In this country, we are not ruled by an all-powerful executive with a pen and a phone,” Pittman wrote in his order.


Moral of the story? Go through congress first. Not through a centralized political figure like Communist China has.

I am not sure if President Biden is that concerned, since this stunt helped him turn out student votes for the Democrat Party. Now this carrot on the string is not needed for two more years. Biden can blame others and still got what he wanted. Who will blame Biden for an overreach to get freebies? it It is easier to blame those who follow the rules.

The students by falling for this, now have a good argument for suing the colleges for malpractice; unprepared for life and hustlers. They might be able too lower their loans the old fashion way; law suits and bankruptcy. This is how adults deal with debt they cannot handle.

The student debt is between the students, universities and banks, and not the tax payer and the students. The tax payer gains no benefit, like students; party time, universities; coffers are full of students money, and banks; interest payments for many years. Stay in your own money loop. Hire lawyers as a team law suit.

The University system in the USA is mostly Liberal. As such, they contribute heaviest to Democrat Party candidates. It appears this debt; started by the Democrats in Congress, was part of tax money laundering scam for campaign dollars. It was good that the tax payer forgiveness path was obstructed, No we trace where all the money went, to see who should pay back the debt.

Picture if auto dealers came up with a gimmick to sell new cars to students with no money down and no payments until you graduate. After that, you need to pay back the loan. Many students will have a nice new fancy car with no money down and no payments. All will be fun and games, with no concern about the future. After four years of having a good time, now the loans come in and the car is aging. This is a cold glass of water to the face to wake you up.

Should the tax payer, who had no benefit be stuck with the bill? Or should the students work out a deal with the auto makers since you are then ones who benefited? You guys are now supposed to educated adults and not thieves. Just because you got ripped off does not mean you need to rip it forwards and rip off someone else, like taught by the universities by example. You were victims in pain, so why make new victims in pain?

This is the same scenario that occurred when the Democrats tapered with the housing market. Guaranteed loans, beyond what banks would had allowed in a free market, led to a rapid rise in home demand and prices; no money down, and then sudden balloon payments that caused all types of defaults. I would sue the DNC for allowing this to occur, again, all for campaign donations into their slush funds. They saw it coming, but they did not care, they knew they could blame someone else and pretend to care.

 

[Altfish]

I am not sure if President Biden is that concerned, since this stunt helped him turn out student votes for the Democrat Party. Now this carrot on the string is not needed for two more years.

What is the difference when the GOP repeal Roe v Wade to mobilise the Religious Right? Was that a 'stunt' too?

 

[Twilight Hue]

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Since you think a state should have the right to deny rights, would you have no qualms if southern states tried to bring back slavery?

I'd be dismayed.

I doubt however that would be ever reinstated. Unless of course, you commit a crime as stated in the amendment.

 

[Father Heathen]

I'd be dismayed.

But would you condone it or condemn it? Remember, you're in favor of individual states stripping away rights and freedoms.

I doubt however that would be ever reinstated. Unless of course, you commit a crime as stated in the amendment.

I know it would never actually be reinstated, but that's besides the point.

 

[Twilight Hue]

But would you condone it or condemn it? Remember, you're in favor of individual states stripping away rights and freedoms.



I know it would never actually be reinstated, but that's besides the point.

I would condem it of course, but will stay neutral as to its own affairs, i respect states rights, so that would have be up to that particular state entirely and its people to keep it or leave it along with any consequences that comes with it.

That is exactly how the world itself works right now to this very day.

 

[Father Heathen]

I would condem it of course, but will stay neutral as to its own affairs, i respect states rights, so that would have be up to that particular state entirely and its people to keep it or leave it along with any consequences that comes with it.

That is exactly how the world itself works right now to this very day.

You can't pretend to be pro rights or pro freedom if you support a government taking them away, regardless if it's state or federal.
It's funny how you're not even religious yet you double down on a theocratic agenda.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You can't pretend to be pro rights or pro freedom if you support a government taking them away, regardless if it's state or federal.
It's funny how you're not even religious yet you double down on a theocratic agenda.

I defend religious rights including theism as much as right to choose. Even if I don't personally agree , I will still defend those freedoms within reasonable parameters.

I even defended RvW in past postings. Just not through a centralized power base.

 

[Father Heathen]

I defend religious rights including theism as much as right to choose. Even if I don't personally agree , I will still defend those freedoms within reasonable parameters.

I even defended RvW in past postings. Just not through a centralized power base.

There is an obvious difference between having the right to believe and imposing those beliefs in ways that violate the rights of others, and you still haven't explained how you could be pro freedom while still supporting states having the ability to arbitrarily take freedom away.

 

[Twilight Hue]

There is an obvious difference between having the right to believe and imposing those beliefs in ways that violate the rights of others, and you still haven't explained how you could be pro freedom while still supporting states having the ability to arbitrarily take freedom away.

Because if you attack freedoms , you attack all freedom not for their position, but overall freedoms everywhere. Freedom is subjective in nature after all. Open to interpretation.

It might serve well on one front but can be used to return fire opening another front using the same means.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Apparently personal choice isnt a right for either side.

No, it is a right when it comes to Democrats. The Republicans have been the ones passing authoritative measures when it comes to personal rights.