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Biden tours rome before climate summit with 85 fossil fuel guzzling limousines.

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
No one is suggesting that all people, including Biden, stay at home and not using any vehicle, thus the OP appeals only to those whom have a hard time relating to reality.

Gee, I wonder if they also serve nothingburgers at MacDonalds?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Is that the people/mechanism that Billie Eilish is using to help her green her touring as much as possible? I do know about them. And found it interesting that what they really focus on are the trade-offs, not the absolute ideals.

I wasn't aware but it does seems like she is working with a number of companies to create a virtual online experience.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The problem is that the leader of the free world, regardless of party, does require quite a bit of heavy security. As a result anything he is involved in will have a large entourage. The question is whether the travel is necessary or not. I would say that this was justified. I would not say that weekly or even more often golf trips were justified. How often does the President need a break? Obama seemed to abuse that and the hypocritically, after criticizing Obama for that, Trump was far worse.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I wasn't aware but it does seems like she is working with a number of companies to create a virtual online experience.
There is one group in particular that help by being able to assess possible trade-offs. For example it's not logistically possible to hop continents without flying but these people can assess the difference for you between renting one plane and bringing your whole stage crew, vs flying them all commercially, separately. Things like that. Also there's cost vs effect in terms of environmental protection. Some things that cost only a little more can have a big positive effect. Others not so much. It's complex, and difficult for any individual to assess. So there is a group that can help companies that want to 'go green' figure out how. And of course there are groups that can help implement the changes, too.

I totally agree that Biden could have used and promoted those kinds of 'green tools'. And of course he didn't. Because he's hack, and he always has been.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Talk about nitpicking - classic Biblical straining at gnats and swallowing camels.

There's nothing like complaining about a drop of water while a mile high tsunami barrels down on people.

And, of course, the right gets to do whatever it wants because the right does not believe in science
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Talk about nitpicking - classic Biblical straining at gnats and swallowing camels.

There's nothing like complaining about a drop of water while a mile high tsunami barrels down on people.

And, of course, the right gets to do whatever it wants because the right does not believe in science
Yea. Make excuses for hypocrites.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No one is suggesting that all people, including Biden, stay at home and not using any vehicle, thus the OP appeals only to those whom have a hard time relating to reality.

Gee, I wonder if they also serve nothingburgers at MacDonalds?
No. Use electric luxury cars.




They exist.

Not 85 fuel guzzling limousines in a classic show of hypocrisy.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No. Use electric luxury cars.




They exist.

Not 85 fuel guzzling limousines in a classic show of hypocrisy.
Isn't it fascinating how liberals will give a pass when their
own leaders are so hypocritical about curbing global warming.
Such wanton waste sends the message that climate change
isn't so serious that their royals should sacrifice.
They give lip service with meeting after globe trotting meeting
of climate celebrities & political elites wherein they preach,
complain, frighten, & then set goals for future governments.
Then take their private planes back to their mansions.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I have never driven a car in Rome. It is impossible.
Unbelivable traffic.
Let him enjoy a car ride...:p

Btw...I take tram, subway train, bus...
 
There is one group in particular that help by being able to assess possible trade-offs. For example it's not logistically possible to hop continents without flying but these people can assess the difference for you between renting one plane and bringing your whole stage crew, vs flying them all commercially, separately. Things like that. Also there's cost vs effect in terms of environmental protection. Some things that cost only a little more can have a big positive effect. Others not so much. It's complex, and difficult for any individual to assess. So there is a group that can help companies that want to 'go green' figure out how. And of course there are groups that can help implement the changes, too.

I totally agree that Biden could have used and promoted those kinds of 'green tools'. And of course he didn't. Because he's hack, and he always has been.
Don’t they know how to do a ZOOM conference yet? We are at DEFCON! According to Gore we must be in the negative till it’s all over, and AOC we only got a few years left on her prediction. :D
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Don’t they know how to do a ZOOM conference yet? We are at DEFCON! According to Gore we must be in the negative till it’s all over, and AOC we only got a few years left on her prediction. :D
But just think of all the great progress they achieved
at their meeting. It justifies all the private airliners,
jets, & yachts congregating.

Here's an interesting window into how communism works
for one climate change summit attendee....
Communist Leader Eats Gold-Covered Steak With Salt Bae After Visiting Karl Marx’s Grave
Excerpted....
Celebrity chef Nusret Gokce, also known as “Salt Bae,” fed gold-plated steak to To Lam, a leader of Vietnam’s Communist Party, after Lam led a visit to Karl Marx’s grave on Nov. 2.

A video posted to Gokce’s Tik Tok account showed him hand-feeding gold-plated steak to Lam, who gave a thumbs up. Gokce deleted the video after receiving criticism on social media, BBC News reported.

A widely shared receipt from the restaurant Oct. 8 showed a meal for four with drinks costing 37,000 pounds (more than $50,000). Lam’s official salary as minister is less than $800 per month, according to Vice.

Lam was leading a delegation at the COP26 climate conference in Scotland, Vice reported.
 
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