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Biggest differences between Asatru and Druidism??

Sees

Dragonslayer
Ásatrú is closer to Celtic Reconstructionism. Druidry is much more "open" and has been on a 300 year or so revival with some shaky history kept by some and disregarded by others. Some have little to do with Celtic tradition, outside of the namesake, others are very much like Celtic Recons who simply use Druid/ry in place.

It would take lots of reading/talking to get a decent grip on any and all of them.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Far as history is concerned, impossible to know for sure. The Celtic and Germanic peoples shared many cultural commonalities and probably a pan-culture of sorts (which by extension means a pan-religion), but the Druids themselves weren't a Tribe or cultural group; they were an order. While the Celtic peoples had deep reverence for Druids, whether their particular beliefs lined up or not is anyone's guess.

In terms of the modern religions, Druidry seems to me far more oriented to abstract spiritual practice, and from what I've seen seems to have elements in common with California's hippies(which I don't mean to say in a derogatory or condescending way, for the record), at least in terms of emphasis on love and peace. But like @Sees pointed out, Asatru isn't really comparable to Druidry, since the latter isn't really an attempt to reconstruct/reapply an ancient practice into a defined religion, so much as recapturing an ancient spirit.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Druidry is basically "Wicca but not as bad". By that I mean it's actually a few centuries old and has some genuinely ancient traditions rather than just some guy trying to create a prot/quasi-pagan faith.
 

Toxikmynd

Demir
I'm into the whole lifestyle but their religious ideas make no sense to me. I don't believe you can consider druidism a religion, its too open to different pantheons and stuff, its more of a lifestyle imho.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I'm into the whole lifestyle but their religious ideas make no sense to me. I don't believe you can consider druidism a religion, its too open to different pantheons and stuff, its more of a lifestyle imho.

At least as far as the Order of Bards, Ovates, and Druids is concerned, that's deliberate. ^_^
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
I'm into the whole lifestyle but their religious ideas make no sense to me. I don't believe you can consider druidism a religion, its too open to different pantheons and stuff, its more of a lifestyle imho.

At least the modern is.

I know I've said this several times, - but read The White Goddess by Robert Graves.

He discusses the ancient history of different groups, their God and Goddesses, and their interaction and blending.

He discusses the Bards, and how they later - under Christianity - hid their mythic stories in their verse.

He tells us about the Druids.

Very-very interesting if you can make your way through all the ancient names. :)

*
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Pardon me? I'm not sure what you mean... lol

The Order of Bards, Ovates, and Druids (or OBOD) is one of the most prominent Druidic organizations. The way they're set up is that they aren't a specific religion, but a spiritual philosophy designed to be compatible with any or no specific religion (so there's Christian Druids, Atheist Druids, Asatru Druids, Celtic Recon Druids...).
 

Toxikmynd

Demir
The Order of Bards, Ovates, and Druids (or OBOD) is one of the most prominent Druidic organizations. The way they're set up is that they aren't a specific religion, but a spiritual philosophy designed to be compatible with any or no specific religion (so there's Christian Druids, Atheist Druids, Asatru Druids, Celtic Recon Druids...).

That is actually kind of cool. :)
 

Toxikmynd

Demir
I was on their site and saw that in order to "join" they require a fee. Hmm.. Hocus pocus empty your wallet opus.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I was on their site and saw that in order to "join" they require a fee. Hmm.. Hocus pocus empty your wallet opus.

I don't really get that impression this time, to be honest. To me, it looked more like any sort of trade school program; lessons aren't free because resources aren't free. Being a member of OBOD isn't just living one's life a certain way; my impression was that it's also a sort of "job". The life philosophy, far as I could tell, is on their website for any and all to see.

Sometimes we have to remember that ascetic-type morality, where in order to be spiritually valid one has to be completely poor and not have any money, is a very new, very Christian, thing. Plus, the reputations that other organizations that charge money, such as Scientology, have has sort of made it difficult to tell when an organization is legitimate despite a fee, and just trying to rip off gullible, easily led folks.
 

Toxikmynd

Demir
I don't really get that impression this time, to be honest. To me, it looked more like any sort of trade school program; lessons aren't free because resources aren't free. Being a member of OBOD isn't just living one's life a certain way; my impression was that it's also a sort of "job". The life philosophy, far as I could tell, is on their website for any and all to see.

Sometimes we have to remember that ascetic-type morality, where in order to be spiritually valid one has to be completely poor and not have any money, is a very new, very Christian, thing. Plus, the reputations that other organizations that charge money, such as Scientology, have has sort of made it difficult to tell when an organization is legitimate despite a fee, and just trying to rip off gullible, easily led folks.
I'd have to look into it harder. I like the druid livestyle, so I like the idea of Asatru druidism. :)
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm into the whole lifestyle but their religious ideas make no sense to me. I don't believe you can consider druidism a religion, its too open to different pantheons and stuff, its more of a lifestyle imho.

May I ask how you are defining religion? IMHO, religion done right is a "lifestyle," or an all-encompassing way of life.
 

Toxikmynd

Demir
May I ask how you are defining religion? IMHO, religion done right is a "lifestyle," or an all-encompassing way of life.

For me there is a difference, I believe religion plays a large role in lifestyle, but not all Christian's wear the cross so to speak. Bad example, but that's the only one I can think of at the moment.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
For me there is a difference, I believe religion plays a large role in lifestyle, but not all Christian's wear the cross so to speak. Bad example, but that's the only one I can think of at the moment.

For me, there is no distinction. That's how it was in the pre-Christian days; we didn't have a word for "religion". There was just "our way of life." The term the Vikings used for their pre-Christian religion was "old way", and they referred to Christianity as "new way". That was the only way they knew how to distinguish the two.
 

bain-druie

Tree-Hugger!
I was on their site and saw that in order to "join" they require a fee. Hmm.. Hocus pocus empty your wallet opus.

I've been a member of OBOD for years; I'm in the Ovate grade currently.

What Riverwolf said is true; OBOD asks for a reasonable fee when you join their training program, with which to cover their expenses. They don't send unwanted spam crap trying to get me to buy more and more Druid Stuff [on the contrary, they put a lot of emphasis on creating your *own* materials rather than buying them anywhere else], they don't even pressure me with my studies (even my tutor doesn't pressure me at all), and the material is more than worth what I pay, imo. I'm largely solitary in my current practice, but it has been invaluable to me to have the community of OBOD available to me. I've made deep, solid friendships by being part of it; when OBOD does request money, they also give you a detailed explanation of what it is you're paying for. And it's rare that they do request it.

Far, far different from churches my parents made me attend. ;)
 

Toxikmynd

Demir
I've been a member of OBOD for years; I'm in the Ovate grade currently.

What Riverwolf said is true; OBOD asks for a reasonable fee when you join their training program, with which to cover their expenses. They don't send unwanted spam crap trying to get me to buy more and more Druid Stuff [on the contrary, they put a lot of emphasis on creating your *own* materials rather than buying them anywhere else], they don't even pressure me with my studies (even my tutor doesn't pressure me at all), and the material is more than worth what I pay, imo. I'm largely solitary in my current practice, but it has been invaluable to me to have the community of OBOD available to me. I've made deep, solid friendships by being part of it; when OBOD does request money, they also give you a detailed explanation of what it is you're paying for. And it's rare that they do request it.

Far, far different from churches my parents made me attend. ;)

Love your answer and that little bit on the end lmao.
 
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