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Binding marriage
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Judgement Day
Active Member
The combination of all three. But if you're asking what makes marriage stands up for long, then I vote love. Based on God for your responsibility to God, and based on legal documents for human affairs.
Popeyesays
Well-Known Member
Judgement Day said:
All three indeed.
"BAHÁ'Í MARRIAGE
As to the question of marriage, according to the law of God: First you must select one, and then it depends on the consent of the father and mother. Before your selection they have no right of interference.
Bahá'í marriage is union and cordial affection between the two parties. They must, however, exercise the utmost care and become acquainted with each other's character. This eternal bond should be made secure by a firm covenant, and the intention should be to foster harmony, fellowship and unity and to attain everlasting life...
In a true Bahá'í marriage the two parties must become fully united both spiritually and physically, so that they may attain eternal union throughout all the worlds of God, and improve the spiritual life of each other. This is Bahá'í matrimony.
Among the majority of the people marriage consists of physical relationship and this union and relationship is temporary for at 373 the end physical separation is destined and ordained. But the marriage of the people of Baha must consist of both physical and spiritual relationship for both of them are intoxicated with the wine of one cup, are attracted by one Peerless Countenance, are quickened with one Life and are illumined with one Light. This is the spiritual relationship and everlasting union. Likewise in the physical world they are bound together with strong and unbreakable ties.
When relationship, union and concord exist between the two from a physical and spiritual standpoint, that is the real union, therefore everlasting. But if the union is merely from the physical point of view, unquestionably it is temporal and at the end separation is inevitable.
Consequently when the people of Baha desire to enter the sacred union of marriage, eternal connection and ideal relationship, spiritual and physical association of thoughts and conceptions of life must exist between them, so that in all the grades of existence and all the worlds of God this union may continue forever and ever for this real union is a splendor of the light of the love of God.
Likewise if the souls become real believers they will find themselves ushered into this exalted state of relationship, becoming the manifestors of the love of the Merciful and exhilarated with the cup of the love of God. Undoubtedly that union and relationship is eternal.
The souls who sacrifice self, become detached from the imperfections of the realm of man and free from the shackles of this ephemeral world, assuredly the splendors of the rays of divine union shall shine in their hearts and in the eternal paradise they shall find ideal relationship, union and happiness."
(Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 372)
Regards,
Scott
mrscardero
Kal-El's Mama
turk179 said:
I feel that marriage is held together more by love and understanding.
Quiddity
UndertheInfluenceofGiants
Love runs out and legal documents are just papers that can be voided as soon as one person doesn't want to work the relationship anymore. I am of the opinion that this view has contributed to people wimping out on relationships. It's just too easy. Why not? There is a hotter chick or guy around the corner who laughs at my jokes..:areyoucra
What do you think I voted?
What do you think I voted?
Popeyesays
Well-Known Member
Draka said:
I agree love between the spouses is the beginning point for marriage. But that leads us to the question of defining "love".
Some think romantic love is the whole ball of wax - which is why so many marriages end. People's lust and desire for one another within a marriage is a cyclical thing, it waxes and wanes. Selfless love and esteem for one another has to be there as well, or there is no "stickum" for the ball of wax.
Selfless love, in my estimation, is the love we have for one another for the sake of God and not for the sake of ourselves.
Regards,
Scott
Draka
Wonder Woman
I don't even believe that marriage is necessary. I think people can be together and love each other without the paperwork. Marriage is a legality really. Also, to stay in a loveless unhappy marriage just to appease a god which may or may not exist is really living your short life miserable for a "what if". We are to be happy while we are here in my belief. Why doom oneself to unhappiness if you don't have to? I personally would rather be divorced than stuck in a marriage where I felt unloved, abused, tormented and whatnot simply because of "god". Love is the only reason to be together...period.
Atheist_Dave
*Foxy Lady*
you missed of a la I believe.
Popeyesays
Well-Known Member
Draka said:
I believe there is reason for divorce as well - usually when the selfless love and esteem are missing. In the Baha`i Faith, divorce is possible and subject to laws just like marriage is. The main requirement is called the "Year of Patience" while the parties live under separate rooves and do not engage in finding a replacement mate for the term of twelve months. Then a Baha`i divorce is granted and a civil divorce can be decreed - end of marriage. WHen one partner can claim fear of physical or mental harm during the year, the civil decree can be pursued before the end of the year of patience.
My wife and I (almost thirty years) established a Year of Patiend in 1991 and were back together by fall of 1993 - yeah we were divorced for two years - and had to remarry under Baha`i law. We've been together almost thirty years.
Regards,
Scott
Regards,
Scott
"other(please explain)" From my personal point of view, Love, companionship and a lot of hard work. I believe that attraction is the first 'spark'. As the relationship develops, love grows, and friendship. I don't suppose we are all the same, but for us, there came a time when sex was no longer high on the list of priorities. By then, you have 'made your bed', and the hard work begins........the rough and tumbles of life, children growing up, and that's where the companionship comes in. There's nothing like it.
Draka
Wonder Woman
In a lot of pagan traditions and religions there is what is called Handfasting. While some have confused this ceremony as marriage nowadays that is not what it is. Handfasting is an informal kind of marriage. No legality to it. It lasts for a year and a day...same as an apprenticeship does. It can be renewed every year as long as both participants feel that the relationship is working. If, say, after the first year of handfasting the couple were to realize that they are definitely not compatable then they can just walk away. No paperwork, guilt, or blame. This way there is no hassle of divorce and there is the propect of trying with no stress that it HAS to work. The ceremony is still religious and done during a ritual before the gods. It is a promise to TRY...not to succeed. Because no one can gaurantee the success of a relationship. This just seems more logical to me.
