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Blacks are not as diverse as Latinos according to Biden.

Nova2216

Active Member
I saw Donald run into a secret underground bunker when peaceful protesters were near. Then he got embarrassed with his weakness.
Later, he emerged with teargas flying so he could walk to a church that didn't want him there.

TRUMP will be in the White House for four more years after the Nov. election.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I guestimate that he'll be better than she would've.

I may be wrong (yeah, right..) but I don't see Joe as the egotistical, power-hungry pol that comes out in Hillary. However, (again, my read only) I think Joe enjoys being the center of the Dems attention knowing that he really has to do very little to retain his title.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I saw Donald run into a secret underground bunker when peaceful protesters were near. Then he got embarrassed with his weakness.
Later, he emerged with teargas flying so he could walk to a church that didn't want him there.

Interesting...where exactly were you standing when you saw this take place?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I may be wrong (yeah, right..) but I don't see Joe as the egotistical, power-hungry pol that comes out in Hillary. However, (again, my read only) I think Joe enjoys being the center of the Dems attention knowing that he really has to do very little to retain his title.
And the less he says & does, the better his chances.
His best qualities are being not Trump, & having
Trump as his opponent.

I could'a voted for Andrew Yang.
Alas, Biden was their best & brightest.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The guy who wanted to give everyone free money? How would that square with Libertarian principles?
Libertarians proposed just such a program a couple decades ago.
(I searched the internet for documentation within the last year, but
couldn't find it. So I'm going by memory.) As I recall....
It was $10K/year for everyone (likely adults only), & would've
replaced some social welfare programs. While not purely libertarian,
it was touted as more so than the bureaucratic quagmires (no offense
intended, @Quagmire) the alternatives were. For example, Section 8
housing requires landlords to monitor who visits & lives in a subsidized
household. Rather intrusive, eh.
Advantages.....
- Low administrative overhead.
- No disincentives for earning additional income.
- Less big brotherish.
- People choose how they spend the money, not government.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
As I recall....
It was $10K/year for everyone (likely adults only), & would've
replaced some social welfare programs.
That's Charles Murray's idea.
If welfare spending is currently 1T per year, then your program would be closer to 2T per year. You'd have to raise taxes.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That's Charles Murray's idea.
If welfare spending is currently 1T per year, then your program would be closer to 2T per year. You'd have to raise taxes.
So be it.
But....
- Limiting military spending to defense would help.
- There'd be savings in social programs eliminated
or reduced due to redundancy.
- The poor wouldn't see this benefit reduced when
they start earning money, unlike current programs.
This would eliminate the disincentive to earn $$$$.
 
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