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Blasphemy

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
And you think it's false because of?

Because if it was true, Christians would not be so sensitive. They probably know it is ridiculous, but hate to be reminded of.

Try to make fun of things with some evidence, like evolution and the theory of gravity, and observe how many care.

Ciao

- viole
 
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exchemist

Veteran Member
Because I've been using the net for a long time and personally been convicted on 3 counts of section 4a public orders offence on 3 police officers by parodying the Northamptonshire polices website therefore causing them harassment, alarm or distress

Like I said thinking you can say what you like because the blasphemy law has now gone is completely untrue
Your personal experience with internet activity elsewhere is not evidence that what we are posting on this site also breaks that law, as you claim. After all we don't know what you were up to, do we?
 

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Because if it was true, Christians would not be so sensitive. They probably know it is ridiculous, but hate to be reminded of.

Try to make fun of things with some evidence, like evolution and the theory of gravity, and observe how many care.

Ciao

- viole
Empty rhetoric and a completely false view of main stream Christianity

Well done
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Here in the UK the medieval blasphemy laws were eventually scrapped in 2008, far too late in the day, imo.

I think one should be permitted to say exactly what one likes about any god, especially as they are more than likely human creations.
I agree, if done respectfully (example: In my humble opinion I think the God of the Bible Old Testament is very cruel)
No need to create hate by belittling and stating it as a fact (It's a fact that the God of the Bible Old Testament is very cruel) ... it's all hearsay anyway
Otherwise you impose and do the same as those Christians who belittle people believing different ... creating a vicious circle of hate
 

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Your personal experience with internet activity elsewhere is not evidence that what we are posting on this site also breaks that law, as you claim. After all we don't know what you were up to, do we?

I was talking to someone who thought the scraping of blasphemy laws in the UK gave them the freedom to say what they liked it doesn't

Obviously you could just Google the act I quoted FYD
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
I don't get it either. Then again, atheism often dovetails with anti-theism instead of simple apathy, which prompts folks to speak out against theism. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. Some folks just like $#@%ing on other people's sacred things.

Hmm...
I think that by $#@%ing on other people's sacred things we may end up creating our own sacred things. Or maybe $#@%ing on other people's sacred things is a result of doing what's sacred for us in the first place.
Food for thought.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Because when that false narrative gets you tax breaks and other privileges it needs to be called out
What false narrative is that? Is that false narrative the one that promotes kindness, love, compassion, mercy, forbearance, equity and inclusion? That false narrative? Or is it the one that calls us to fight against disenfranchisement And to champion the outcast and vulnerable? That false narrative? Or perhaps it’s the false narrative that love is patient and kind? Or that we should treat others the way we’d want to be treated?

What false narrative is it that creates tax breaks? I’m curious.

Shall we call out that despicable narrative about responding to the poor? Or maybe we should call out the one that says that hope is a good thing?
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
If the Constitution gave Christians the right to impose their religion on the country,
then that would be the law of the land. But it prohibits establishment of religion.
Moreover, Christians are heading down below 75% of the populace.
Should they be able to violate the Constitution in order to impose their religion
upon the unwilling non-believers?
I guarantee that when we heathens become the majority, we won't prohibit
religion. And we won't force you to say ant-Christian mottos or oaths.

Ref....
Percentage of Christians in U.S. Drifting Down, but Still High
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But weren't your grandparents or great grandparents Christian though? It's ultimately still a part of your culture and history, right..?

...I just think it would be nice if we Westerners had some sort of common culture we could all celebrate together. It's our history. Even if we don't still all believe.
 
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Cooky

Veteran Member
Sometimes i like going to Spanish Mass, or Chinese or Vietnamese Masses. Even Latin Mass.

...I have no clue what theyre saying, but all of a sudden, we share a special bond together. I eat their egg roles and wer'e a big family all of a sudden.

All Westerners should acknowkedge this bond! We all have ancestors who were Christian. Even Catholic far back enough. :cool:

All of us.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
It was forced on me as a child. My EVIL grandmother, beat religion into her kids and from the age of two she kept telling me about the tortures of hell for naughty little girls like me.:mad::mad::mad::mad: I literally danced on her grave when horrible woman did us all a favour and died in the 90s!

You should forgive her and place flowers on her grave. I'm sure she loved you.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
But weren't your grandparents or great grandparents Christian though? It's ultimately still a part of your culture and history, right..?
I don't know their religions.
We never discussed it.
...I just think it would be nice if we Westerners had some sort of common culture we could all celebrate together. It's our history. Even if we don't still all believe.
A common culture is a great idea.
One aspect would be tolerance for all religious beliefs,
with the forcing of none upon others. Treating all as
though they were Christian....not a shared culture.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Otherwise you impose and do the same as those Christians who belittle people believing different ... creating a vicious circle of hate

Isn't that what all mentally or socially stagnant people do? I've noticed it. And it's regardless of anything -it can even pertain to sports, careers, or whatever regarding anything.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Isn't that what all mentally or socially stagnant people do? I've noticed it. And it's regardless of anything -it can even pertain to sports, careers, or whatever regarding anything.
I also noticed many people belittle others. Parents belittle children, so children think it's normal ... unless someone makes them understand it is not
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Rubbish, your lack of belief in the evidence accepted by many is your problem
Really?

What definition of 'truth' do you use?

That is, what test do you use to tell whether any particular statement is true or not?

(My own view is that a statement is true to the extent that it corresponds with / accurately reflects objective reality.)
 

Glaurung

Denizen of Niflheim
Free speech is only ok to a point, racism and anti-gay bigotry should never be permitted and should be stamped out.
So, free speech for me but not for thee. You can denigrate freely the faiths you dislike, but goodness forbid should someone say anything politically incorrect! :eek:

You don't get to dictate to someone how they feel after someone - ANYONE - dies. You don't. So stop trying to make anyone feel guilty about any feelings they had about any instance of someone else dying. It's unnecessary, and displays such a giant heap of naivete it is borderline disgusting.
Self-righteous babble. If you're going to complain about 'unpleasant' people whilst proclaiming about how you once gloated over another human being's death then I have zero sympathy for you. I think the unpleasantness may be more mutual than the OP admits.

What is borderline disgusting is the double standard. Were I to say anything even half-way as inflammatory about Hindu, Jewish or Islamic beliefs (because some Hindu/Jewish/Muslim guy who lives down the road said something mean about gay people one time) I would no doubt find myself banned maybe even facing criminal charges in some countries. But here you can say disgusting things about Christ and the Virgin Mary while feigning being a defender of the downtrodden and more than likely get nothing but thumbs up.

Had the OP simply stated that she didn't agree with Christian sexual ethics that would have been one thing. But that not what was posted. Mocking Christ and the Virgin Mary isn't a valid criticism of anything, it's simply being boorish. The big irony is that the thread in question is predicated on the accusation that Christians are 'unpleasant'. Try looking in the mirror sometime.

Contractions? Is someone giving birth? :D
Lol! I don't know how that slipped by me. :oops:
 
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JJ50

Well-Known Member
Racism and anti-gay bigotry are NOT acceptable. I don't have any problem with free speech where religion is concerned as it is no worse than saying what you like about any fairy tale scenario.
 
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