Blood over everything?

[Elessar]

Thanks. This is a bit off-topic (but does have to do with religious veneration of blood), but do the Orthodox want to resume blood sacrifice -- or have they moved beyond that to some other form, or type, of sacrifice? It "feels" to me as if Judaism has moved beyond the need for such primitive and violent symbolism -- but I could be wrong. Not to pass judgment onthe Orthodox -- that's not within my purview.

The Orthodox do want to resume blood sacrifice, as it is in the Torah. Orthodox Judaism sees modern, rabbinical Judaism as a necessary substandard practice. They think continual blood sacrifice is necessary and desirable.

However, sacrifice can only be done at the Temple, and in no other place. Thus, if there is no Temple, blood sacrifice is impossible. However, if the Temple is restored, Orthodox Judaism teaches that blood sacrifice should resume as soon and as quickly as possible.

 

[kai]

How bizarre !this sounds like a job for Abraham Van Helsing

 

[sojourner]

The Orthodox do want to resume blood sacrifice, as it is in the Torah. Orthodox Judaism sees modern, rabbinical Judaism as a necessary substandard practice. They think continual blood sacrifice is necessary and desirable.

However, sacrifice can only be done at the Temple, and in no other place. Thus, if there is no Temple, blood sacrifice is impossible. However, if the Temple is restored, Orthodox Judaism teaches that blood sacrifice should resume as soon and as quickly as possible.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Heneni]

This is what i believe the significance of the blood of jesus is....

He is the vine and we are the branches, we really do get our life from him. A branch 'drinks' from the life of the vine to survive. We are connected to Jesus by the seed of god that remains in us, and we cannot have the life of god, unless we have the life of jesus in us.His life in us, his life poured out for is, is what we drink from, to have our own life.

The life of Jesus as a human was represented by his blood. The blood is what kept the body of jesus going. Its what distributes the nutrition to the various parts of the body. Hence we have to drink from this life. He united us with him on the cross, and so we are drinking from his life since then. We are one in spirit with him. We are branches, an extention to the vine. Not seperate from the vine. Thats what he did when he united us with him.

A baby 'eats' the flesh of the mother since the atoms that makes the baby grow was in the mother in the first place. The baby uses the calcium from the mother and many other nutrients from the mothers body to grow. Hence the baby 'eats' the flesh of the mother, uses what she has to grow. Hence we have to eat from jesus's flesh as well. What sustains and makes us grow comes from Jesus christ.

The blood of Jesus is life. He is the life that flows through us, and he is the flesh that we eat to grow spiritually. The word of god is the flesh that we eat. The bible says that the word became flesh, so now we eat his flesh by consuming his word and growing by it. The life of Jesus, is his blood, the blood was shed, his life was shed, therefore he was free to take up his life again, since he drew from the life of god,the source of life. And when he united us to him on the cross, he also gave us the ability to live and grow by being connected spiritually to him. Without him we are therefore nothing.

Wine is made when the grapes are 'murdered' by removing it from its life source, but when it is squeezed the sustanance of it becomes available for our benefit. In the same way Jesus died, God turned away from him, Jesus was seperated from god in order to die, his life taken from him. His life was squeezed out for us, his blood and water flowed from him, like a grape squeezed to make wine. He therefore poured out his life for us, like a grape pours out its juice when squeezed. His life poured out for us is what we drank to have life, and it was this life that made us alive with christ when he rose from the dead.

Heneni

 

[blackout]

i have heard this being preached...

“i know the devil is afraid of the blood”
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“we must learn to ‘use’ the blood”
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“my husband and i stay in various hotels because of our travels . Quite frequently when unpacking and settling into a hotel room i will ‘plead’ the blood or ‘put’ the blood on the room, to cleanse or remove any wrong spirits that may be there from other guests. I do this by praying, by speaking the blood in my prayer”
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“we laid hands on the check and prayed. I went and got all of our checkbooks and my pocketbook and dave got his wallet and we laid hands on them and put the blood on them, asking god to protect our money, to cause it to multiply and to see to it that satan could not steal any of it from us”
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“you need to start praying the blood over your children, your car, your home, your body”
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“if you are sick in your body, plead the blood over your body. The life is in the blood; it can drive out the death of sickness”

what do you think, is the reason people would use the blood of jesus in this way?​

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fear.

 

[doppelganger]

Do you think there is any merrit in pleading the blood of jesus over things?

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Metaphyiscally, no. Mythologically and psycyologically . . . maybe.

 

[ThereIsNoSpoon]

Do you think there is any merrit in pleading the blood of jesus over things?

I think there is no merrit in pleading any blood.