Bob Moran, cartoonist, in Britain now Sacked by Telegraph over his cartoons

[stvdv]

Cancel culture and censorship is an ongoing trend and problem now.

The only recourse is to boycott and protest the media rag.

Thank you.

Good to see, that there is someone else who sees this huge "problem" too, I thought all were like ostriches on RF

So far, I mainly saw replies to details, and not seeing the bigger picture sadly...due to all the brainwashing and censorship that is going on now

 

[epronovost]

He played a smart game, won a stupid prize

It's a smart game now to appeal to the crowd to bully a doctor to give sound medical advices now?

If you say stupid ****, except people to treat you like an idiot.

 

[stvdv]

It's a smart game now to appeal to the crowd to bully a doctor to give sound medical advices now?

If you say stupid ****, except people to treat you like an idiot.

You clearly missed the point, as did most who replied

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Cancel culture and censorship is an ongoing trend and problem now.

The only recourse is to boycott and protest the media rag.

Oh, the irony.

You're going to try to cancel this newspaper because it engaged in "cancel culture"?

 

[epronovost]

You clearly missed the point, as did most who replied

What point was missed. The man had a reprehensible, unhinged, behavior in public, so his employer decided to let him go since he was a public figure.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Oh, the irony.

You're going to try to cancel this newspaper because it engaged in "cancel culture"?

I suspect it will be doing a pretty good job in canceling itself out. ;0)

Your right though. Canceling out cancel culture could be the proverbial fighting fire with fire.

 

[Kooky]

Being sacked and being murdered are analogous, you heard it here first.

 

[Kooky]

But there are always limits to Freedom of Speech - one of them is if your speech causes harm.
The man who stands up in a crowded cinema and shouts, "Fire" may cause harm.

People keep bringing this up as an example for restricting freedom of speech, when
a) this was a metaphor used to justify the suppression of anti-war campaigns in America during WW1, and
b) this decision was later reversed when it was the KKK, rather than anti-war socialists who would come under scrutiny, affirming that speech cannot cause harm even when it comes in the form of a burning cross.

Put simply, if we go by the USSC decisions on the matter, then shouting fire in a crowded cinema is perfectly fine as long as you're violently racist and pro-war.

Which should bring most anti-maskers in the clear.

 

[Kooky]

Telegraph sacks cartoonist Bob Moran over Twitter posts targeting NHS doctor

This is about "Freedom of Speech":
a) Charlie Hebdo, cartoonist, in Paris a few years ago
Killed over his cartoons

In your analogy, which of these two sides is Charlie Hebdo, and which one is the Islamic State?

German officials fear anti-mask radicalization after killing

A 49-year-old German man was arrested in the fatal shooting of the clerk Saturday [September 18, 2021] in the western town of Idar-Oberstein. The suspect is being held on suspicion of murder.

Authorities said the man told officers he acted “out of anger” after being refused service for not wearing a mask while trying to buy beer.

“He further stated during interrogation that he rejected the measures against the coronavirus,” the Trier police department said in a statement.

A requirement to wear masks in stores is among the measures in place in Germany to stop the spread of the virus.

According to police, the suspect left the gas station after the dispute but then returned half an hour later wearing a mask and fatally shot the 20-year-old clerk in the head.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Telegraph sacks cartoonist Bob Moran over Twitter posts targeting NHS doctor

This is about "Freedom of Speech":
a) Charlie Hebdo, cartoonist, in Paris a few years ago
Killed over his cartoons

b) Bob Moran, cartoonist, in Britain now
Sacked by Telegraph over his cartoons

c) Eline van ‘t N. , journalist, in Holland (Europe)
Jailed for filming a protest (my thread yesterday)

(There are plenty more of these examples; not just Holland)

How is this in your country?
Have you already noticed such a trend?
Do you see dangers if Freedom of Speech is gone?
Should we (do you) protest against this trend?

Telegraph cartoonist Bob Moran sacked over Covid-19 Twitter posts

Things are bad when people are being hurt because of their view on a piece of material on their face. Aren't we better than that?

 

[stvdv]

In your analogy, which of these two sides is Charlie Hebdo, and which one is the Islamic State?

German officials fear anti-mask radicalization after killing

My OP is about "Freedom of Speech" (like making cartoons)

The murderer in your example should have made a cartoon

But due to censorship this can't be done
Hence they resort to other ways to convey their message

Good example proving the danger of censorship
And proving the value of "Freedom of Speech"

 

[stvdv]

Things are bad when people are being hurt because of their view on a piece of material on their face. Aren't we better than that?

Hurting goes both ways:
a) Action = Demonizing those who don't want to wear it
b) Reaction = The ones demonized express their anger

Just plain and simple karma
Our PM and Klaus Schwab tell
"We are going to make you very angry"

So, this is even done on purpose by the elite
That's the demonic part in all of this

 

[Sand Dancer]

Hurting goes both ways:
a) Action = Demonizing those who don't want to wear it
b) Reaction = The ones demonized express their anger

Just plain and simple karma
Our PM and Klaus Schwab tell
"We are going to make you very angry"

So, this is even done on purpose by the elite
That's the demonic part in all of this

Do people demonize them? I see requirements here and there, but how are people demonizing them? I guess I haven't seen that.

 

[Kooky]

My OP is about "Freedom of Speech" (like making cartoons)

The murderer in your example should have made a cartoon

But due to censorship this can't be done
Hence they resort to other ways to convey their message

Was Charlie Hebdo attacked because radical Muslims were being censored?

 

[stvdv]

Do people demonize them? I see requirements here and there, but how are people demonizing them? I guess I haven't seen that.

In Holland they have demonized quite a bit

 

[stvdv]

Was Charlie Hebdo attacked because radical Muslims were being censored?

Why you ask me these question, what is your intention?

 

[Kooky]

Why you ask me these question, what is your intention?

To crack open your rhetoric and see what's inside of it.

You were using Charlie Hebdo as an analogy to what's happening to COVID deniers.
You also claimed that COVID deniers are becoming murderous due to censorship.

But the analogy to Charlie Hebdo can only be valid if increased censorship caused the Charlie Hebdo attacks. So I am asking you, do you believe that the Charlie Hebdo attacks happened due to increased censorship, yes or no?

In Holland they have demonized quite a bit

Can you give concrete examples of that demonization?
What is the media saying about them that you consider "demonizing"?

 

[Sand Dancer]

In Holland they have demonized quite a bit

Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. I thought Dutch people were pretty easy going.

 

[stvdv]

Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. I thought Dutch people were pretty easy going.

People in general are pretty easy going

Main stream media in Holland and the politicians (except a few) are the ones doing this. People now finally start protest more, and recently they have been doing it less (showing "Freedom of Speech" is important to battle wrongdoings, esp. "Freedom of Opinion", what is at stake now even)

 

[stvdv]

To crack open your rhetoric and see what's inside of it.

You were using Charlie Hebdo as an analogy to what's happening to COVID deniers.
You also claimed that COVID deniers are becoming murderous due to censorship.

But the analogy to Charlie Hebdo can only be valid if increased censorship caused the Charlie Hebdo attacks. So I am asking you, do you believe that the Charlie Hebdo attacks happened due to increased censorship, yes or no?


Can you give concrete examples of that demonization?
What is the media saying about them that you consider "demonizing"?

I did not make all those claims you claim I made in the OP

I just gave examples about "Freedom of Speech"