Boss of National Enquirer given immunity for testimony:

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They had an economist who works for the DOJ explain this on Fox or CNN, I forget which. Essentially this proves Trump committed a campaign violation act, although while he is President he cannot be charged. The same guy pointed out that when Trump (via Giuliani) admitted paying Cohen back he committed a second felony. I'm not completely sure of the law, but apparently there's a tax form you have to file that lists these repayments, and the repayment to Cohen isn't listed on Trump's. Again, he can't be charged until he's out of office.

He may not be charged in a court of law right now, but those offenses may be impeachable offenses. I do not think that there is enough "there there" yet, but with another domino falling every day it may not be long. Another person flipped on Trump today. The CFO of the Trump Organization was just given immunity:

Longtime Trump Organization CFO Weisselberg granted immunity in Cohen probe

 

[Revoltingest]

Seeing the thread's title, I got a chuckle at how bizarre & exclamatory the testimony would be.

 

[columbus]

You might want to go back and look at why Clinton was impeached.

Clinton was impeached primarily for lying under oath. That's why Trump will never go under oath. He knows he can lie all he wants to and the sheeples won't care.

Clinton didn't want to testify. But Congress subpoenaed him to testify, under oath, in an official investigation. He didn't have a choice.
They did that over Slick Willy cheating on his wife, nothing the least bit illegal. If even vague evidence surfaces suggesting that Trump actually did collude with the Russians, and they don't see that as reason to investigate the possibility of high treason, all I can say is
This will be absolute proof that the Republican Party has no interest in the USA and it's interests when it conflicts with the interests of the Party and their rich patrons.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

And....

 

[Revoltingest]

They did that over Slick Willy cheating on his wife, nothing the least bit illegal.

Oh, you Clinton apologists, always ignoring the facts of the matter.
Impeachment of Bill Clinton - Wikipedia
On the passage of H. Res. 611, Clinton was impeached on December 19, 1998, by the House of Representatives on grounds of perjury to a grand jury (by a 228–206 vote)[17] and obstruction of justice (by a 221–212 vote).[18] Two other articles of impeachment failed – a second count of perjury in the Jones case (by a 205–229 vote)[19] and one accusing Clinton of abuse of power (by a 148–285 vote).[20]

 

[Subduction Zone]

Clinton didn't want to testify. But Congress subpoenaed him to testify, under oath, in an official investigation. He didn't have a choice.
They did that over Slick Willy cheating on his wife, nothing the least bit illegal. If even vague evidence surfaces suggesting that Trump actually did collude with the Russians, and they don't see that as reason to investigate the possibility of high treason, all I can say is
This will be absolute proof that the Republican Party has no interest in the USA and it's interests when it conflicts with the interests of the Party and their rich patrons.
Tom

Not exactly. The Paula Jones case was where he committed perjury. And he was hoisted by his own petard in that case. Early in his career he signed a law that allowed a person's prior acts, even if not illegal, to be used as evidence against them in sexual harassment cases. That law has since been found to be unconstitutional, but he was its most famous victim before that occurred.

 

[pearl]

At that time we had lost six firefighters from one station in a warehouse fire. President Clinton came to the memorial. Our 'holy than thou' city council refused to allow him to speak.
When asked if he had sexual relations with 'this woman' he said no. Nice try, but if one asks kids (high school) nowadays, they don't consider oral sex to be sex. If there is no intercourse they've had no sex.

Clinton didn't want to testify. But Congress subpoenaed him to testify, under oath, in an official investigation. He didn't have a choice.

As a Constitutional lawyer he understood this well.

 

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At that time we had lost six firefighters from one station in a warehouse fire. President Clinton came to the memorial. Our 'holy than thou' city council refused to allow him to speak.
When asked if he had sexual relations with 'this woman' he said no. Nice try, but if one asks kids (high school) nowadays, they don't consider oral sex to be sex. If there is no intercourse they've had no sex.



As a Constitutional lawyer he understood this well.

Sorry, he lied under oath and if you lower your standards to what school children thought then you really have set amazingly low and unreliable ones. He was impeached, but the Senate did not find that what he did rose to the level of being tossed out of office. They could not even get all of the Republicans on board. If Trump was impeached today I am sure that the results would be very similar. What he has done was illegal. Did it rise to the level of an impeachable offense? I don't think so. But the investigation is still young. It takes a while to unravel problems such as this.

 

[BSM1]

Clinton was impeached primarily for lying under oath. That's why Trump will never go under oath. He knows he can lie all he wants to and the sheeples won't care.

Perjury and obstruction of justice in the case of another woman he assaulted before he became Prez.

 

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Perjury and obstruction of justice in the case of another woman he assaulted before he became Prez.

Obstruction of justice in a personal lawsuit is rightfully seen as a smaller crime than obstruction of justice in a political campaign. In other words you just pointed out that Trump is worse than Clinton, congratulations!

 

[BSM1]

Clinton didn't want to testify. But Congress subpoenaed him to testify, under oath, in an official investigation. He didn't have a choice.
They did that over Slick Willy cheating on his wife, nothing the least bit illegal. If even vague evidence surfaces suggesting that Trump actually did collude with the Russians, and they don't see that as reason to investigate the possibility of high treason, all I can say is
This will be absolute proof that the Republican Party has no interest in the USA and it's interests when it conflicts with the interests of the Party and their rich patrons.
Tom

Geez Louise!! Clinton's impeachment had nothing to do with him cheating on his wife! You are more than welcome to be as partisan and as agenda driven as you wish, but please get your facts straight because I do not want you to appear that you don't know what you're talking about..

 

[BSM1]

They had an economist who works for the DOJ explain this on Fox or CNN, I forget which. Essentially this proves Trump committed a campaign violation act, although while he is President he cannot be charged. The same guy pointed out that when Trump (via Giuliani) admitted paying Cohen back he committed a second felony. I'm not completely sure of the law, but apparently there's a tax form you have to file that lists these repayments, and the repayment to Cohen isn't listed on Trump's. Again, he can't be charged until he's out of office.

Must have been CNN. There is a lot of grey area in this "campaign contribution" fiasco. If Trump donated more of his own money to his campaign (which is very legal) than was paid out, then there is crime. Plus there are circumstances that are pertinent to payments to past partners that are considered; such as, not wanting to embarrass his family. These are all legal and have been thoroughly discussed in the media.

 

[BSM1]

Obstruction of justice in a personal lawsuit is rightfully seen as a smaller crime than obstruction of justice in a political campaign. In other words you just pointed out that Trump is worse than Clinton, congratulations!

Hey, you got me there...oh, yeah...there hasn't been any charges filed against Trump for obstruction of anything. Keep smiling.

 

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Hey, you got me there...oh, yeah...there hasn't been any charges filed against Trump for obstruction of anything. Keep smiling.

The investigation is still ongoing. You can't seem to understand that. Buy by your standards Trump is worse than Clinton. All that he has not done is to lie under oath. The problem is that he will have to do that when subpoenaed or admit guilt at this point. Do you think that we have learned all of what he did wrong? I think that we are only scratching the surface at this point in time. You should review the history of the Watergate investigation. The crime that set it off began during Nixon's reelection campaign. It took over two years from the date of that crime for Nixon to resign.
I figure we have until the end of the year at least before Trump supporters have any legitimate complaints about how long the investigation has been going on.

 

[BSM1]

The investigation is still ongoing. You can't seem to understand that. Buy by your standards Trump is worse than Clinton. All that he has not done is to lie under oath. The problem is that he will have to do that when subpoenaed or admit guilt at this point. Do you think that we have learned all of what he did wrong? I think that we are only scratching the surface at this point in time. You should review the history of the Watergate investigation. The crime that set it off began during Nixon's reelection campaign. It took over two years from the date of that crime for Nixon to resign.
I figure we have until the end of the year at least before Trump supporters have any legitimate complaints about how long the investigation has been going on.

"...and the beat goes, and the beat goes on..." Look me up when you have something substantial. Peace out.

 

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"...and the beat goes, and the beat goes on..." Look me up when you have something substantial. Peace out.

By your own standards, if you agreed to the Clinton impeachment, we have more on Trump now than we ever had on Clinton.

 

[ecco]

not because an intern slobbering on his knocker.

Gotta love your phrasing.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm pretty sure you're the one who needs to do this because it was a lie that lead to him being impeached, not because an intern slobbering on his knocker.

It wasn't just a single lie.

 

[ecco]

Clinton was impeached primarily for lying under oath. That's why Trump will never go under oath. He knows he can lie all he wants to and the sheeples won't care.

Perjury and obstruction of justice in the case of another woman he assaulted before he became Prez.

I'll add some emphases to my previous post...

Clinton was impeached primarily for lying under oath. That's why Trump will never go under oath. He knows he can lie all he wants to and the sheeples won't care.

 

[ecco]

Hey, you got me there...oh, yeah...there hasn't been any charges filed against Trump for obstruction of anything. Keep smiling.

How long did it take until charges were filed against Nixon? I for one am continuing to smile.