Boycott Hobby Lobby: Trumping Women's Rights

[Dirty Penguin]

IMO, anyone who is unaware that doctors routinely prescribe birth control pills or IUDs to women for a wide variety of health reasons other than birth control is not entitled to be taken seriously in this debate. That goes double for the male SCOTUS justices, whose incredible ignorance vis a vis women's health has now been forcefully injected into the doctor's office with millions of female employees of other ignorant men.

I completely agree...

 

[nash8]

It opens the door for weaseling out of a lot of things that are wise for the greater public good. And given a certain relatively large demographic in my country seems to like to weasel out of things that are good for the general public or the long-term future, it makes me nervous.

Your just starting to get nervous... you're way behind the ball lol.

Supporting terrorist organizations and drug cartels gets you a slap on the wrist. Refusal of the provision of contraception seems minor to me, with regard to the other atrocities being "weaseled out of".

Even along these lines, and much more atrocious to me. The "Good Will" can "legally" pay disabled employees less than minimum wage regardless of their work performance due to a loop hole in a 1930's era labor law. If any store should be boycotted, it should be "The Good Will".

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

So it's come out that Hobby Lobby used to cover the drugs in question before the ACA... sorta:

http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...bby-lobby-once-provide-birth-control-coverag/

 

[MysticSang'ha]

So it's come out that Hobby Lobby used to cover the drugs in question before the ACA... sorta:

Did Hobby Lobby once provide the birth control coverage it sued the Obama administration over? | PunditFact

But of course.

 

[Tarheeler]

So it's come out that Hobby Lobby used to cover the drugs in question before the ACA... sorta:

http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...bby-lobby-once-provide-birth-control-coverag/

But of course.

But now the big bad socialist/communist/fascist/Muslim/massiah/king wants to make them do it.

And that makes it different somehow. :yes:

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

But now the big bad socialist/communist/fascist/Muslim/massiah/king wants to make them do it.

And that makes it different somehow. :yes:

FWIW, they did drop the coverage when they realized it was part of their plan. However, I think the fact that they apparently didn't bother to review their policy to see whether it conflicted with their beliefs or communicate their requirements to their insurer gives some indication of how important this issue was to them.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

FWIW, they did drop the coverage when they realized it was part of their plan. However, I think the fact that they apparently didn't bother to review their policy to see whether it conflicted with their beliefs or communicate their requirements to their insurer gives some indication of how important this issue was to them.

Exactly.

Their position continues to become less defensible as each new bit of information is revealed. It's as if the less informed this personhood is, and the more faithful they purport to be, the more support they get from SCOTUS to privilege and finance certain things and to throw others under the bus.

Science, accountability, and blind justice be damned now. As long as you're an arbitrary closely-held sort-of person with agreeable deeply-held beliefs that doesn't make baby Jesus cry, you can do whatever you please no matter the cost to those loose slutty women who don't deserve as much.

 

[Revoltingest]

Exactly.

Their position continues to become less defensible as each new bit of information is revealed. It's as if the less informed this personhood is, and the more faithful they purport to be, the more support they get from SCOTUS to privilege and finance certain things and to throw others under the bus.

Science, accountability, and blind justice be damned now. As long as you're an arbitrary closely-held sort-of person with agreeable deeply-held beliefs that doesn't make baby Jesus cry, you can do whatever you please no matter the cost to those loose slutty women who don't deserve as much.

What's your opinion of Obamacare's specifically exempting these entities
from the requirement to provide birth control to female employees?:
- Companies with grandfathered plans which remain unchanged
- Companies with fewer than 50 employees
- Churches

Note: My question is predicated on some murky presumptions about coverage.
Googling the subject, things aren't crystal clear. Feel free to challenge things.

I hate sentences which require 2 forms of punctuation!
What is a "?:"....an "interrolon"....a "quesolon"?

 

[MysticSang'ha]

What's your opinion of Obamacare's specifically exempting these entities
from the requirement to provide birth control to female employees?:
- Companies with grandfathered plans which remain unchanged
- Companies with fewer than 50 employees
- Churches

Note: My question is predicated on some murky presumptions about coverage.
Googling the subject, things aren't crystal clear. Feel free to challenge things.

I hate sentences which require 2 forms of punctuation!
What is a "?:"....an "interrolon"....a "quesolon"?

My knee-jerk reaction? Same old song and dance when it comes to a government that is all too willing to side with religious bigotry and sexism in the name of "freedom." White House female employees have to face a wage gap in spite of the fact that Obama has insisted on equal pay for equal work.

It's not as if the Obama administration hasn't thrown anybody else under the bus before. Oh wait...

 

[Revoltingest]

My knee-jerk reaction? Same old song and dance when it comes to a government that is all too willing to side with religious bigotry and sexism in the name of "freedom." White House female employees have to face a wage gap in spite of the fact that Obama has insisted on equal pay for equal work.

It's not as if the Obama administration hasn't thrown anybody else under the bus before. Oh wait...

Well, in Obama's defense, men earn more because they're hired for the better
& more senior positions. So it's a perfectly reasonable.....uh...never mind.

 

[Nakosis]

Well, in Obama's defense, men earn more because they're hired for the better
& more senior positions. So it's a perfectly reasonable.....uh...never mind.

Men earn more because they value themselves more.

As an employer if I can't get a women to do the same job as a man for less pay it's better for my bottom line. Heck, if I can get a man to the same work as another man for less pay it's better for my company.

Why should I pay more when I can get people to work for less. If women are willing to work for less that's not my fault.

Lets encourage the hiring of more women, sounds good for business.

 

[Revoltingest]

Men earn more because they value themselves more.

As an employer if I can't get a women to do the same job as a man for less pay it's better for my bottom line. Heck, if I can get a man to the same work as another man for less pay it's better for my company.

Why should I pay more when I can get people to work for less. If women are willing to work for less that's not my fault.

Lets encourage the hiring of more women, sounds good for business.

I doubt that Obama would admit to that strategy.

 

[Nakosis]

I doubt that Obama would admit to that strategy.

Never really know what motivates a politician, Idealism or personal economics.

Then again some businessmen are driving by idealism, the idiots...

 

[YmirGF]

I doubt that Obama would admit to that strategy.

He doesn't need to, LOL.

Male-female pay gap remains entrenched at White House - The Washington Post

Wonder how that works with the so-called "war on women" mantra...

 

[Revoltingest]

Male-female pay gap remains entrenched at White House - The Washington Post
Wonder how that works with the so-called "war on women" mantra...

It works wonderfully.
After all, it's not like the battle cry, "War On Women", has any basis in cogent analysis.
Acceptable excuses will be made.


Dang it...I'm getting sarcastic again.
Slap me, will you, Ymir?

 

[YmirGF]

Slap me, will you, Ymir?

*Smack*

(You know you love it, you naughty boy...)

*Smack*

 

[Koldo]

*Smack*

(You know you love it, you naughty boy...)

*Smack*

Why are you kissing him?

 

[Revoltingest]

Why are you kissing him?

Shhhhhhh!