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Brain / Consciousness debate and age (please answer poll for psychological research)

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  • Consciousness has a physical cause, I am 10-20 years old

    Votes: 3 6.1%
  • Consciousness has a physical cause, I am 21-30 years old

    Votes: 13 26.5%
  • Consciousness has a physical cause, I am 31-40 years old

    Votes: 3 6.1%
  • Consciousness has a physical cause, I am 41-50 years old

    Votes: 4 8.2%
  • Consciousness has a physical cause, I am 51 years old or older

    Votes: 3 6.1%
  • Consciousness has a non-physical cause, I am 10-20 years old

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Consciousness has a non-physical cause, I am 21-30 years old

    Votes: 6 12.2%
  • Consciousness has a non-physical cause, I am 31-40 years old

    Votes: 4 8.2%
  • Consciousness has a non-physical cause, I am 41-50 years old

    Votes: 4 8.2%
  • Consciousness has a non-physical cause, I am 51 years old or older

    Votes: 9 18.4%

  • Total voters
    49

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
There are more than 40 people on here like 24/7. We could sticky it and leave it for a while. It could support that rejecting physical consciousness is (not) an act of pure emotion over knowledge. Considering our community's obsession with the debate...

I think it's more like you'll that the older you get (meaning the closer to death you get), the more likely people will want to believe consciousness is a non-physical property.
 

technomage

Finding my own way
I think it's more like you'll that the older you get (meaning the closer to death you get), the more likely people will want to believe consciousness is a non-physical property.
I think the cause of the correlation is more likely to be the fact that the neuroscience that provides at least some evidence of a physical cause of consciousness is fairly recent.
And I will note that ten years ago, I was a staunch dualist on this question. Now ... I dunno.
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
I think it's more like you'll that the older you get (meaning the closer to death you get), the more likely people will want to believe consciousness is a non-physical property.

And the older you get, you often learn how little you/we truly know and have had more, varied experiences to pound it in.

Younger people are usually more trusting of book knowledge, media, etc. and my favorite - often think they understand all of life's secrets at 15-25.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
And the older you get, you often learn how little you/we truly know and have had more, varied experiences to pound it in.

Younger people are usually more trusting of book knowledge, media, etc. and my favorite - often think they understand all of life's secrets at 15-25.

Young people tend to seek knowledge and they base their interests and circles around that. Older people are about emotion. If someone tells me how to post pics I'll share a great graph about SST
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Debate if you want, but that thread already is going. I'm investigating if Socioemotional Selectivity Theory (or it's sibling) can apply here as well to beliefs. The question is; do you believe that consciousness is caused by the brain or is not (please pick a side) and what age group do you fit into.

Hmm, I voted, but it's ultimately vague. My views on consciousness are a tad bit more detailed. ;)
 

nazz

Doubting Thomas
I think it's more like you'll that the older you get (meaning the closer to death you get), the more likely people will want to believe consciousness is a non-physical property.

I came to the conclusions I currently have in my 20's. I am now in my late 50's. I kind of resent this attempt to make this about age :rolleyes:
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I came to the conclusions I currently have in my 20's. I am now in my late 50's. I kind of resent this attempt to make this about age :rolleyes:

It's not about age, simply a hypothesis that popped into my head. So far, though it's too small to be conclusive, that hypothesis is being falsified.

It's science, you wouldn't understand.
 

Warren Clark

Informer
is there a right answer?

when i think "physical" i think of something you can sense with the five senses.
But when i think "consciousness" its just a thought... its not part of the five senses.

So I would say non-physical effect.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Other. To use the nomenclature of the poll, non-physical consciousness "has a physical cause."

Regardless of other types of cause, everything has physical cause, if only because we look, for explanation, to the physical.
 
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technomage

Finding my own way
Its a no brainer

No brain no conciousness.
Its a knockout.
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Thief

Rogue Theologian
Debate if you want, but that thread already is going. I'm investigating if Socioemotional Selectivity Theory (or it's sibling) can apply here as well to beliefs. The question is; do you believe that consciousness is caused by the brain or is not (please pick a side) and what age group do you fit into.

Having seen the graph I suspect a pending result.
Younger people can't see beyond their bodies.
They are caught up in the 'spirit' of living.

Older people like myself are moving to that last breath.
and more than hoping, awareness is more than breath.
 

technomage

Finding my own way
You'll have to forgive me, but the undergraduate coursework I had in psychology didn't exactly cover that and I'm not going to assume that I know what that means.
Socioemotional selectivity theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Basically, the theory states that the older a person gets, the more they tend to spend time seeking emotion-related goals rather than knowledge-related goals. I personally think the theory is a bit overstated, but there is a core of sensibility to it,
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Socioemotional selectivity theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Basically, the theory states that the older a person gets, the more they tend to spend time seeking emotion-related goals rather than knowledge-related goals. I personally think the theory is a bit overstated, but there is a core of sensibility to it,

Strikes me as a blatantly false dichotomy. My self-motivated learning ("knowledge-related goals") directly corresponds to my passion for it ("emotion-related goals").
 

technomage

Finding my own way
Strikes me as a blatantly false dichotomy. My self-motivated learning ("knowledge-related goals") directly corresponds to my passion for it ("emotion-related goals").
Meh .., I wouldn't say "blatantly false dichotomy" so much as "dramatic oversimplification." There is a degree of overlap, but there are also areas of divergence. :shrug: YMMV. :)
 
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