Exaltist Ethan
Bridging the Gap Between Believers and Skeptics
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And yes, I disagree with @ChristineM , I do believe that everybody is entitled with some base level of respect and dignity.
So, assume you meet someone, you respect them automatically. It turns out they are a thief or rapist maybe a human smuggler or a paedophile. What happens to respect then?
Sure treat everyone with dignity but respect goes far deeper than just being nice to someone.
I go with the benefit of the doubt until I find proof that person did something horrible.
I don't, i think we have different views of what constitutes respect
It is hard not to have faith in a world like this, nor do I see anything productive coming about not having faith. Why do you feel drawn to Apistevism?The Fault of Faith
This is going to come extremely unorthodox by most people's standards, but I feel like I need to express this belief as I have come to known it.
I believe that agnostics, atheists and apistevists know and understand God more than most theists. In fact, I believe it is their lack of faith that brings them closer to God, rather than removing them from it. I'm not going to consider them theists myself, as I've heard other theists argue "no atheists in foxholes" argument. However, as a pantheist myself, focusing on science and reality rather than scriptures and dogma has them on a level of knowing and understanding God in a way that I don't believe most theists can comprehend.
Most people know what agnostics and atheists are. Apistevism is the logical conclusion of atheism; rejecting the very idea of faith, or belief without evidence. I consider pantheism an extrapolation of atheism, and panentheism an extrapolation of pantheism. I do not have faith, I have a series of extrapolations and assumptions about reality. I believe the correct assertion however is both apistevism and pantheism, which I believe is possible, unlike panentheism or monotheism and apistevism. However, I am not at the stage yet that I can just ignore all my assumptions.
I believe this forum has many atheistic apistevists and pantheistic apistevists. I do not believe it is against the idea of apistevism to believe in something I call "active divinity", or the positive actions that humans do on a regular basis. Most of it is centered towards each individual, yes, but I firmly believe Earth is a far better place with us than without us. I also consider myself pro-life, pro-natalism and Republican, despite the vast majority of apistevists being in the progressive wing of the Democratic Party.
Newer religions that touch base on ideas that help people are the action in my active divinity idea. Helping the disadvantaged, creating communities without borders and participating in events gives people who otherwise had no group to belong in now have something to do every Sunday. I say this very firmly despite not belonging to any active religious organization. What they do is helping change the world in powerful ways, but what they say distances themselves from God, rather than bringing them closer to it.
What, if instead, we had a religion that was both pro-science and pro-activism? That's essentially what Unitarian Universalism has become, but I can't get behind their progressive ideals and almost every time I listen to a Unitarian on politics I cringe a little bit inside. Meanwhile there are other NRMs that do focus on reality a lot, such as the Baha'i Faith, but that religion activity rejects the idea of a pantheist God. The most pressing change we must come forward to face is global sovereign unity.
As time goes on I might come to learn to embrace the concept of apistevism as a way to strengthen my views on pantheism. However right now I cannot let go of the extrapolations or the assumptions I've held about reality. Of course, if I become apistevist most of my transhumanist views will also disappear as well. With that being said, I would argue that the people who understand the nature of the Universe the most and our small perception of reality to be both apistevists and pantheists. And the unique idea of combining both of them interests me. I see no clear contradictions between both if one approaches it from a lens of science and logic.
Of course, there are the scientific pantheists, as shown from the World Pantheist Movement. What I don't like about them however is they think humans have been making a larger impact on Earth than we actually have. Go into cities and you think they're right, but go to the rural areas of most countries, which composes the most land of most nations, and you start to realize that there really isn't enough people around to fully populate and establish full sovereign unity world wide yet. With maybe the exception of India and micro-nations such as Monaco or Singapore.
The fault of faith is that it often makes incorrect assumptions about reality that people just want to hear. I think most of us have some assumptions about our lives. We expect to live longer than we do now, and I don't think all assumptions are incorrect. With that being said, there are still things we have yet to know, and we fill in the gaps with our current understanding of reality. I do this to an extreme amount with my extrapolations. But perhaps I will learn to take reality presently while I'm alive and not what may happen in the future or wish to exist at a later date.
I feel like my next logical progression is to keep my pantheism but drop transhumanism and instead embrace the idea of apistevism, but I have a hard time letting go of my unbridled optimism for humans due to how well I have taken care of myself, despite my disability. I'm afraid I'll never truly belong to the World Pantheist Movement due to how much they focus on rejecting humans in their attempt to stay Green. With that being said, combining pantheism and apistevism would lead me to believe many positive attributes about a person that I feel I shouldn't reject myself.
Apistevism makes more sense to me than faith, even if I hold a transhumanist faith myself. I just can't let go of transhumanism and what it means for society, especially with the recent boom of artificial intelligence. We are on the cusp of a revolution on how we process the world and I am in awe of how we're doing it.
My extrapolations/assumptions/faith can go insane. I literally have the assumption that 1 - everybody will be resurrected at a later date 2 - will control their own galaxy that will be later upgraded to a Universe, then a Multiverse and 3 - and at that point we will live in a post-moral reality, which we can literally create as many natures as we want to do whatever we want all the time. It is so heavily focused on the future that I spend all my time thinking about the future and what my life will be like after I'm resurrected that I don't experience life as what it exists right now. Plus, in my ideal version of pantheism, syntheism would still exist into this framework and I believe that while transhumanism is incompatible with apistevism, both pantheism and syntheism can be enhanced by it because instead of relying on the future to take care of all of the problems that exist, someone with an apistevism would focus on what they already know in the here and now instead. Syntheism can be pantheistic, atheistic or apistevistic, or a combination of one the first two and the third one.It is hard not to have faith in a world like this, nor do I see anything productive coming about not having faith. Why do you feel drawn to Apistevism?