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BREAKING: Alien Mummy Possibly Found in Nazca Peru

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
There is no evidence that it's an alien either, and yet people claim it is.





Yes, yes we can say for sure:

FACT CHECK: Did Researchers Find a Mummified, Three-Fingered Alien in Nazca, Peru?

"In 2015, Mexican journalist Jaime Maussan, who reported the existence of the Nazca mummy to Gaia and is featured in the video, led an event called Be Witness, at which a mummified body — purportedly that of an alien — was unveiled. Later, though, that “alien” discovery was debunked, and the mummified corpse was shown to be that of a human child.

Forensic scientist José de Jésus Zalce Benitez was one of the lead researchers behind the (debunked) 2015 discovery, presenting his findings at the
Be Witness event. Benitez also took part in Gaia’s Nazca project and can be seen in the video claiming that the three fingers of the mummy “makes us think that this does not belong to a human species.”

Interestingly later in the article it appears that Gaia were the same people claming the elongated skulls were aliens too.

Haha, Gaia is a joke they just try to claim anything they can is an alien.

And ya, that page is about the 2017 video, but the origins of the hoax go back to 2015.
I am skeptical of the skeptics too. They will call things in dispute 'debunked' all the time. If they are talking of the Atacama mummy that has definitely not been determined a hoax. Some tried to claim it was a mummified fetus but that's been rejected by others.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
No offense. This is what I expect from the crowd on any paranormal/crypto/alien thread I start.
I believe in the paranormal but get very very skeptical when it comes to crypto/alien stuff. I want first to see a story in a reputable science magazine that I read (I'm allergic to video mostly). And then I'll be open to alternative explanations that fit the facts but continuing to hold Occam's Razor in my hand.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Who said I believe it yet. It is just highly intriguing at this point and there is no evidence of a hoax I have found in research. Always claims of hoax on anything paranormal/crypto/alien such that that doesn't deter me anymore.

I'll judge for myself as new information comes in.
Have you ever encountered a paranormal claim and thought to yourself "no, that's probably not true"?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It sure isn't any human type I know of from what I have seen.
Doesn't matter. If it was an alien body, or could stump any actual forensic/biological anthropologist into admitting a humanoid of entirely unknown origins, that alone would dominate the news.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Doesn't matter. If it was an alien body, or could stump any actual forensic/biological anthropologist into admitting a humanoid of entirely unknown origins, that alone would dominate the news.
That has not been my experience. The forensic/biological anthropologist would be called a quack for some time (especially on RF). Darwin was considered a quack for decades and to some even still.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That has not been my experience. The forensic/biological anthropologist would be called a quack for some time (especially on RF). Darwin was considered a quack for decades and to some even still.
Forensic anthropologists are so highly educated (seriously, in everything from anthropology to biology and osteology and even physics and chemistry and criminal justice) and specialized in identifying remains that if one were to say the remains are not of a known humanoid species, it would be a very significant finding, even before the investigation is complete. If you wanted to call this person a quack, it would require a soapbox of monumental size and ton of supporting evidence to discredit someone of a profession where there aren't actually that many who are board certified.
And, FYI, forensic anthropologists are often good enough to tell the ethnicity of someone just by looking at the skull. There are some seriously wicked smart and intelligent people. There is no such casual dismal of them as a quack. Rather, it would take an armada of evidence and research to establish you even may have a point.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Forensic anthropologists are so highly educated (seriously, in everything from anthropology to biology and osteology and even physics and chemistry and criminal justice) and specialized in identifying remains that if one were to say the remains are not of a known humanoid species, it would be a very significant finding, even before the investigation is complete. If you wanted to call this person a quack, it would require a soapbox of monumental size and ton of supporting evidence to discredit someone of a profession where there aren't actually that many who are board certified.
And, FYI, forensic anthropologists are often good enough to tell the ethnicity of someone just by looking at the skull. There are some seriously wicked smart and intelligent people. There is no such casual dismal of them as a quack. Rather, it would take an armada of evidence and research to establish you even may have a point.
I have heard many very qualified people called quacks as soon as they make a paranormal/crypto/alien extraordinary claim.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I have heard many very qualified people called quacks as soon as they make a paranormal/crypto/alien extraordinary claim.
For something like identifying remains, there pretty much is no one more qualified than a forensic anthropologist. This person could tell us if it is a human (with a chance of where the person lived, some things they may have went through, and even how they died), of another humanoid or ape species, or something else entirely. If this was a suspected alien mummy, a highly renowned and accomplished FA would be called in to verify the humanity/non-humanity of the organism. Kathy Reichs may even be called into to do it, since she is both accomplished in her field of FA and a successful author.
 

Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I am skeptical of the skeptics too. They will call things in dispute 'debunked' all the time. If they are talking of the Atacama mummy that has definitely not been determined a hoax. Some tried to claim it was a mummified fetus but that's been rejected by others.

That's like saying the Earth's sphericalness is in dispute because there are flat-earthers.

Forensic anthropologists are so highly educated (seriously, in everything from anthropology to biology and osteology and even physics and chemistry and criminal justice) and specialized in identifying remains that if one were to say the remains are not of a known humanoid species, it would be a very significant finding, even before the investigation is complete. If you wanted to call this person a quack, it would require a soapbox of monumental size and ton of supporting evidence to discredit someone of a profession where there aren't actually that many who are board certified.
And, FYI, forensic anthropologists are often good enough to tell the ethnicity of someone just by looking at the skull. There are some seriously wicked smart and intelligent people. There is no such casual dismal of them as a quack. Rather, it would take an armada of evidence and research to establish you even may have a point.

Something I should add to what @Shadow Wolf said, is that if a real anthropologist found such a discovery they would probably assume it was some unknown human species or ancestor (comparable to say the nederathals ect who we lived alongside of for a while). Not aliens. If it really was an alien, DNA tests would probably prove when the right extra clues came along, considering it probably would be so radically different and doesn't fit into any evolutionary model.

Also anyone who thinks aliens would look like us is really unimaginative.

Either way, if real such a thing wouldn't just be called fake and ignored. It might be ignored for a few weeks, until someone respected took a look at it which is bound to happen given the nature of science. Someone somewhere who's a real expert seeing it would spot it. If scientists can discover new species of insects through instagram photos that were previously unseen and it happen multiple times then it's gonna happen with any alien mummy that is real. There's probably some scientists going around to check out claims like this even if just to expose hoaxes (think someone like James Randi ), and would be able to realize when something doesn't have the normal hallmarks of a hoax or mis-identification.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I have heard many very qualified people called quacks as soon as they make a paranormal/crypto/alien extraordinary claim.
I've heard many people who have been law-abiding citizens their whole lives called murderers as soon as they kill a single person.

Someone who is committed to the truth uses critical thinking and a proper skeptical approach consistently. Someone who sets this process aside when it suits them isn't committed to the truth, even if they use this approach some - or even most - of the time.
 
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