breeder v non breeder

[Ozzie]

I have kids. I have been referred to as a breeder. That slur equates my kid to cattle. the term breeder has been used by homosexual couples (slang), single persons who resent tax implications of having no children, and others, to refer to those who chose to have children.

The term non breeder has several sad implications also.

When in modern life did the presence or absence of children become acceptable as a pejorative criterion in everyday parlance to describe a person? Have we lost the plot, our daily bred?

 

[Revoltingest]

It's been confusing with all the vitriol, bigotry, hypocrisy, sanctimony & feigned victimhood, but I've sussed how language works:
Whoever can be seen as belonging to some relatively powerful group, either by majority, wealth or authority, everyone else has a license to disparage them:
Examples:
- Black folk may call white folk hillbillies & honkies, but white folk can't call black folk jiggaboos or moon crickets.
- Women can call men testosterone poisoned, but men can't call women b*****s.
- Gays may call us breeders, but we can't call them f**s or q****s.

And to shine this linguistic privilege, the victim group members may cavalierly call each other these disparaging names with impunity.
Also victim status allows them to abuse other victims, eg black fellas rapping about black gals.

Note: I'm also guilty of using the term "breeder" cuz it strikes me as just funny....& too cute to be insulting.
But I don't have very good judgement in such matters.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Black fellas rapping about black girls is sexism, black girls are women and oppressed for being women. Black men are allowed to be sexist the same way white men are allowed to be sexist.

 

[Quintessence]

This slang makes no sense to me. Breeders are people who breed nonhuman animals and plants, not humans, and certainly not themselves. I mean, if eugenics ever becomes a fad, then there will be legitimate human breeders, but until then, the term makes no sense.

 

[BSM1]

Moon crickets??

 

[Revoltingest]

Moon crickets??

Weird term, but a lovely image.

 

[Reptillian]

I have kids. I have been referred to as a breeder. That slur equates my kid to cattle. the term breeder has been used by homosexual couples (slang), single persons who resent tax implications of having no children, and others, to refer to those who chose to have children.

The term non breeder has several sad implications also.

When in modern life did the presence or absence of children become acceptable as a pejorative criterion in everyday parlance to describe a person? Have we lost the plot, our daily bred?

Generally when I think of "breeders" I think of my many uneducated slacker relatives who pump out babies on a regular basis because they're too dim witted to figure out what a condom is. They have a lot of kids in the hopes that one will "make it big", support them in their old age, and vallidate their otherwise pointless existence.

 

[dust1n]

Black fellas rapping about black girls is sexism,

That might be a bit of a blanket statement... no?

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

That might be a bit of a blanket statement... no?

I assume he was talking about a very specific type of rap as in misogynistic rap, since he said victimised groups are allowed to victimise people from their group, so I assume he is talking black men who victimise black women in their music.

That is the context. Am I wrong?

 

[LuisDantas]

Words are just words. They only have use as offense tools due to personal and cultural associations and expectations.

For that reason (and others) it is indeed common for members of a community to use pejoratives meant for them without much of a worry. They know better than to mind.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

I have kids. I have been referred to as a breeder. That slur equates my kid to cattle. the term breeder has been used by homosexual couples (slang), single persons who resent tax implications of having no children, and others, to refer to those who chose to have children.

The term non breeder has several sad implications also.

When in modern life did the presence or absence of children become acceptable as a pejorative criterion in everyday parlance to describe a person? Have we lost the plot, our daily bred?

Don't feel too bad. I both belong and NOT belong to both sides.

I'm suddenly so lonely and confused. :sad:

 

[Revoltingest]

Don't feel too bad. I both belong and NOT belong to both sides.
I'm suddenly so lonely and confused. :sad:

No! You doubled your friends.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

No! You doubled your friends.

And my detractors. Yay.

 

[Revoltingest]

And my detractors. Yay.

Meh....detractors are just friends you haven't made yet.

(I have more trite truisms if you want.)

 

[jazzymom]

I have kids. I have been referred to as a breeder. That slur equates my kid to cattle. the term breeder has been used by homosexual couples (slang), single persons who resent tax implications of having no children, and others, to refer to those who chose to have children.

The term non breeder has several sad implications also.

When in modern life did the presence or absence of children become acceptable as a pejorative criterion in everyday parlance to describe a person? Have we lost the plot, our daily bred?

There is a whole group of people who refer to themselves as childfree and are part of a larger movement of people who choose to not have children and remain childfree.

They resent that in the workforce they see those who have children taking time from work.

That their taxes go to support institutions that go towards children.

There are forums for the childfree.

In every group there are folks who seek to speak of the other in negative terms.

Thus those of us who have children are referred to as breeders and there are many other terms I have heard used.

 

[Falvlun]

People latch onto any characteristic to separate others into an us or them group. Having children are a pretty big life changing difference, so I don't find it odd that it has been used as a way to label people.

 

[arhys]

Breeder is pretty weak as far as insults go. "You've managed to meet someone to forge a lasting mutual commitment with, procreate, pass your DNA and family name on, and raise children to love and support you in your old age and bless you with children of their own" can only be considered derogatory by a deranged deviant suffering from normal-envy.

 

[Me Myself]

It's been confusing with all the vitriol, bigotry, hypocrisy, sanctimony & feigned victimhood, but I've sussed how language works:
Whoever can be seen as belonging to some relatively powerful group, either by majority, wealth or authority, everyone else has a license to disparage them:
Examples:
- Black folk may call white folk hillbillies & honkies, but white folk can't call black folk jiggaboos or moon crickets.
- Women can call men testosterone poisoned, but men can't call women b*****s.
- Gays may call us breeders, but we can't call them f**s or q****s.

And to shine this linguistic privilege, the victim group members may cavalierly call each other these disparaging names with impunity.
Also victim status allows them to abuse other victims, eg black fellas rapping about black gals.

Note: I'm also guilty of using the term "breeder" cuz it strikes me as just funny....& too cute to be insulting.
But I don't have very good judgement in such matters.

And there goes my daily frubal for crazy Revoltingestanian

 

[Me Myself]

And my detractors. Yay.

Would you have it any other way?

 

[ChristineES]

Atticus Finch (To Kill a Mockingbird) told Scout (his daugher) that she shouldn't be offended to be called what someone else perceives as a bad name, when she heard kids calling her father a unsavory name.
That is pretty good advice. If someone calls me a breeder because I have 3 children, then that is their perogative. It makes them feel superior- I think a lot of people want to feel superior. And sometimes the only way a person thinks that can be done is to demean people who do things that they don't or won't do. I just hope they don't accidentally get pregnant or get someone else pregnant