Altfish
Veteran Member
Stephen Yaxley-Lennon fancies himself as Big Brother
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Notanumber
A Free Man
Tommy Robinson has had much criticism in this thread because he has not reported on the paedophile activities of the Catholic Church.
If he had and the Catholic Church of the UK heard about his interactions with these cadets, would they have immediately, demanded that the Army punish these soldiers?
Would the Armed Forces’ official Catholic advisor have condemned these men?
Altfish
Veteran Member
You totally miss the point. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is a racist, proven by his actions and speeches. If (and it's a big if) he had been even handed in his pursuit of pedophiles and not just targeted those of a certain race (That is not white and British) then his racist credentials would be less obvious.
The Army are reacting like they did because they do not want any of their men/women to be associated with a racist outfit.
Notanumber
A Free Man
You have responded by not answering the questions.
If the Catholic Church had demanded that the Army jump, would the Army have immediately responded by asking how high?
This should tell you something fundamental.
BTW, like many others now, Tommy Robinson is no longer intimidated by being called a racist or an Islamophobe.
Altfish
Veteran Member
No, it wouldn't jump.
You may not know this but I'll let you into a secret the UK's established church is Church of England not Catholic - read up on Henry VIII.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Unfortunately, it did jump when demanded to do so by Islam.
Are you now saying that none of these acts took place in the UK after you condemned Tommy Robinson for not reporting it?
One in 50 priests is a paedophile: Pope Francis says child abuse is 'leprosy' infecting the Catholic Church | Daily Mail Online
Wikipedia have been very detailed about the Catholics -
Catholic Church sexual abuse cases - Wikipedia
And the Muslims –
Aylesbury child sex abuse ring - Wikipedia
Banbury child sex abuse ring - Wikipedia
Bristol child sex abuse ring - Wikipedia
Halifax child sex abuse ring - Wikipedia
Keighley child sex abuse ring - Wikipedia
Newcastle sex abuse ring - Wikipedia
Operation Doublet - Wikipedia
Oxford child sex abuse ring - Wikipedia
Peterborough sex abuse case - Wikipedia
Rochdale child sex abuse ring - Wikipedia
Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia
Telford child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia
No wonder Jack Straw has gone quiet –
Straw under fire for linking race to sex attacks
Altfish
Veteran Member
Are you saying that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon had any part in detecting, finding the evidence, prosecuting and finding these people guilty?
No, all he has done is whip up hatred and nearly caused one of the cases to be thrown out.
Look, I know there is an issue with Muslim pedophiles, it is well documented, and needs to be seriously addressed
BUT there is an issue with Catholic and other religious orders being pedophiles. I'd argue this is more serious because the leaders of some of these churches are continuing to cover these up.
There is an issue with TV and Rock stars being pedophiles.
The question you are being asked is why Stephen only highlights Muslim gangs?
If it is not racist, why does he do it?
Notanumber
A Free Man
Because someone has to stand up to Islam before it is too late. Even our governments are not prepared to do that, are they?
The Army would have laughed at the Catholic Church or the Church of England but they submitted to Islam. Can you not see that?
Altfish
Veteran Member
Why don't we have to stand up to the Catholic Church? or DJ's and musicians?
Notanumber
A Free Man
If it is against your belief system to watch the video, read some of the comments.
What do you think about what Sara Champion did?
BTW, it is not racist to criticise an ideology.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Tommy is not far right, but he is right.
Robert Spencer kindly tweeted me the copy of the letter he received from the British Government, where the reason of his ban from the country is clarified.
Practically they say that the mere presence of Dr Spencer will irritate some "foreigners" and will lead them to commit terrorist attacks.
It's automatic to issue a ban when you have a knife to your throat.
Practically they say that the mere presence of Dr Spencer will irritate some "foreigners" and will lead them to commit terrorist attacks.
It's automatic to issue a ban when you have a knife to your throat.
- the letter doesn’t say that.Robert Spencer kindly tweeted me the copy of the letter he received from the British Government, where the reason of his ban from the country is clarified.
Practically they say that the mere presence of Dr Spencer will irritate some "foreigners" and will lead them to commit terrorist attacks.
It's automatic to issue a ban when you have a knife to your throat.
- Richard Spencer tweets at you?
Notanumber
A Free Man
Robert Spencer kindly tweeted me the copy of the letter he received from the British Government, where the reason of his ban from the country is clarified.
Practically they say that the mere presence of Dr Spencer will irritate some "foreigners" and will lead them to commit terrorist attacks.
It's automatic to issue a ban when you have a knife to your throat.
Islam has the UK shaking in its boots.
Look what is happening in China.
Anthem
Active Member
It's so cute you're trying to distract them.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
... the Chinese government is throwing an entire religious demographic into camps. Do you agree with this attempt at a solution?
Notanumber
A Free Man
She talks a great deal of sense.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Altfish
Veteran Member
A good article of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon from the Zelo Street blog...
"One thing comes clear from the justifications given by Stephen Yaxley Lennon, who styles himself Tommy Robinson, for his campaigning - that he takes child abuse very seriously indeed. So he should not be surprised if his critics test his pronouncements against what he has actually achieved in exposing and preventing it.
And that is where the problems arrive: Lennon has exposed very little, if anything, in this area, and has prevented even less. His filming outside courts serves only to endanger trials that are the result of painstaking and costly investigation - which exposes nothing, other than his appetite for self-promotion and disregard for the law.
Worse, his constant pursuit of only one small group of males - those who are Muslims - gives most child abusers a free pass. Worse still is that child abuse was going on under his nose when he was involved with the EDL and he did nothing about it. And yet worse is his excusing all of that by shouting “Quilliam”, when it is becoming clear that Quilliam’s report into so-called grooming gangs is deeply flawed.
Consider all the abuse which Lennon is ignoring. Priests, especially those in and around the Roman Catholic Church, had got away with physically and psychologically abusing children for decades until recently. Children’s care homes across the UK were home not only to vulnerable young people, but also terrible abuse. No comment from Lennon.
But perhaps this is all too abstract, so let’s look at specifics in the here and now. Like Peter Gillett: “Today he was jailed for 12 months at Hove Crown Court after he admitted possessing a Taser … But it can now be revealed that earlier this year Gillett was found guilty of a series of historic child sex offences. After a trial he was convicted of a catalogue of offences against children dating back to 1988 and sentenced to 18 years in jail”.
Or how about Roy Collins? “An ‘arrogant’ Jehovah's Witness subjected two girls under the age of 13 to years of systematic assaults and rapes … Roy Collins, 80, was branded as ‘devious, righteous and arrogant’ by a judge at Swansea Crown Court … He had spent a decade systematically grooming, abusing and raping the two girls”. There was more.
“Collins, of Longford Crescent, St Thomas, Swansea, had previously been found guilty of 26 counts of indecent assault, indecency, and rape at trial when he appeared in the dock at Swansea Crown Court for sentencing”. Not a peep from Lennon on either case.
Worse, those who identify as Lennon’s followers have been targeting one victim: “Rotherham abuse survivor Sammy Woodhouse has come under attack from racists and supporters of Tommy Robinson … It follows an interview with the BBC Newsnight programme where Sammy said that abuse wasn’t just committed by Asian men”.
Has Lennon intervened and told his followers to back off? After all, Ms Woodhouse is entitled to her own free speech, and Tommy is big on free speech, isn’t he? Well, not on this occasion he isn’t. Perhaps it’s because she also said “When you get people like Britain First and Tommy Robinson saying we exposed Rotherham and other places, well no you didn’t … The people who exposed scandals are survivors”.
Stephen Lennon isn’t exposing child abuse. He’s just peddling bigotry."
Zelo Street: Tommy Robinson IGNORES Child Abuse
"One thing comes clear from the justifications given by Stephen Yaxley Lennon, who styles himself Tommy Robinson, for his campaigning - that he takes child abuse very seriously indeed. So he should not be surprised if his critics test his pronouncements against what he has actually achieved in exposing and preventing it.
And that is where the problems arrive: Lennon has exposed very little, if anything, in this area, and has prevented even less. His filming outside courts serves only to endanger trials that are the result of painstaking and costly investigation - which exposes nothing, other than his appetite for self-promotion and disregard for the law.
Worse, his constant pursuit of only one small group of males - those who are Muslims - gives most child abusers a free pass. Worse still is that child abuse was going on under his nose when he was involved with the EDL and he did nothing about it. And yet worse is his excusing all of that by shouting “Quilliam”, when it is becoming clear that Quilliam’s report into so-called grooming gangs is deeply flawed.
Consider all the abuse which Lennon is ignoring. Priests, especially those in and around the Roman Catholic Church, had got away with physically and psychologically abusing children for decades until recently. Children’s care homes across the UK were home not only to vulnerable young people, but also terrible abuse. No comment from Lennon.
But perhaps this is all too abstract, so let’s look at specifics in the here and now. Like Peter Gillett: “Today he was jailed for 12 months at Hove Crown Court after he admitted possessing a Taser … But it can now be revealed that earlier this year Gillett was found guilty of a series of historic child sex offences. After a trial he was convicted of a catalogue of offences against children dating back to 1988 and sentenced to 18 years in jail”.
Or how about Roy Collins? “An ‘arrogant’ Jehovah's Witness subjected two girls under the age of 13 to years of systematic assaults and rapes … Roy Collins, 80, was branded as ‘devious, righteous and arrogant’ by a judge at Swansea Crown Court … He had spent a decade systematically grooming, abusing and raping the two girls”. There was more.
“Collins, of Longford Crescent, St Thomas, Swansea, had previously been found guilty of 26 counts of indecent assault, indecency, and rape at trial when he appeared in the dock at Swansea Crown Court for sentencing”. Not a peep from Lennon on either case.
Worse, those who identify as Lennon’s followers have been targeting one victim: “Rotherham abuse survivor Sammy Woodhouse has come under attack from racists and supporters of Tommy Robinson … It follows an interview with the BBC Newsnight programme where Sammy said that abuse wasn’t just committed by Asian men”.
Has Lennon intervened and told his followers to back off? After all, Ms Woodhouse is entitled to her own free speech, and Tommy is big on free speech, isn’t he? Well, not on this occasion he isn’t. Perhaps it’s because she also said “When you get people like Britain First and Tommy Robinson saying we exposed Rotherham and other places, well no you didn’t … The people who exposed scandals are survivors”.
Stephen Lennon isn’t exposing child abuse. He’s just peddling bigotry."
Zelo Street: Tommy Robinson IGNORES Child Abuse
Notanumber
A Free Man
Tommy is a specialist and there is no harm in specialising.
Where would we be without specialists?