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British Values

Altfish

Veteran Member
I don't know what you have studied, but I have a law degree. This is a clear case of " transgressing the principle of proportionality of the penalty".

That is, you can disobey the judge's orders with the culpa (negligence) and not the dolus (intention), but a proportional penalty can be a high mulct, or fine.
Nine months detention is absolutely not compatible with this case.

Italian newspapers before writing that article consult jurists who agree on that.
Law degree or not, this is English Law, he was warned, he'd done it before, he was warned again and still chose to ignore the warnings. He is either incredibly stupid or did it on purpose to become a martyr to the cause; the fact that you and NAN are up in arms about proves that it is probably the latter.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Law degree or not, this is English Law, he was warned, he'd done it before, he was warned again and still chose to ignore the warnings. He is either incredibly stupid or did it on purpose to become a martyr to the cause; the fact that you and NAN are up in arms about proves that it is probably the latter.
Again...I am not discussing his guilt ( which is a given)...I am discussing the penalty:)
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Good grief, you really are indoctrinated.

You will have your little joke, but this is a serious matter.

When the elites of a country disrespect their soldiers, do not expect them to queue up to lay their lives on the line for that country.

The way things are going I will be surprised if Boris will be able to recruit all those extra police.

If he does, I will be surprised if they are of the calibre as Lee Rigby was before he was hacked to pieces in the name of Allah.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
You will have your little joke, but this is a serious matter.

When the elites of a country disrespect their soldiers, do not expect them to queue up to lay their lives on the line for that country.

The way things are going I will be surprised if Boris will be able to recruit all those extra police.

If he does, I will be surprised if they are of the calibre as Lee Rigby was before he was hacked to pieces in the name of Allah.
Boris is THE ELITE - they don't get much more elite than him, ok Rees Mogg beats him but I can't believe you actually think he is a 'man of the people'. He's even scared to go to Liverpool after the rubbish he has said and written about the city.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Boris is THE ELITE - they don't get much more elite than him, ok Rees Mogg beats him but I can't believe you actually think he is a 'man of the people'. He's even scared to go to Liverpool after the rubbish he has said and written about the city.

I have no doubt that Boris wishes to save the elitist Tory party from the abyss, but he can only do this by carrying out the will of the people.

Lee Rigby deserves a proper, prominent and respectful memorial pointing out the circumstances of his brutal murder.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I have no doubt that Boris wishes to save the elitist Tory party from the abyss, but he can only do this by carrying out the will of the people.

Lee Rigby deserves a proper, prominent and respectful memorial pointing out the circumstances of his brutal murder.
I've no problem with a memorial to Lee Rigby,

I assume you'll want one for the likes of this brutal attack too.
Far-right racist admits stabbing Bulgarian man in Tesco car park after shouting he wanted to ‘kill Muslims’
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
I've no problem with a memorial to Lee Rigby,

I assume you'll want one for the likes of this brutal attack too.
Far-right racist admits stabbing Bulgarian man in Tesco car park after shouting he wanted to ‘kill Muslims’

Lee Rigby was singled out and killed for serving his country.

If the elites of the United Kingdom expect people to put their lives on the line they should make damn sure that, they are given the respect that they have earned.

This goes for our police as well as our armed forces.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Lee Rigby was singled out and killed for serving his country.

If the elites of the United Kingdom expect people to put their lives on the line they should make damn sure that, they are given the respect that they have earned.

This goes for our police as well as our armed forces.
So, you only want memorials for white British soldiers?
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Richard has a tough job to compete with this true politician.


I hope he can do it and he has the backing of Gerard so that is a good sign.
 
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