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bruce lee over-hyped?

are bruce lee's martial art skills over-hyped/exaggerated?

  • yes

    Votes: 4 28.6%
  • no

    Votes: 10 71.4%

  • Total voters
    14

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It’s too bad about the ping-pong video being a fake.:eek:... :rolleyes:

Still the ping pong commercial was the boss!!

Like a lot of people, I originally thought that was Lee showing off his skills. Even knowing it's fake, you still can't help but think Bruce could do that effortlessly.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Stan Lee
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Bruce Lee

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And just cause you asked so nicely...a bonus....Tommy Lee

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And Robert E Lee

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Hey no fair!

Where's Buddy Lee?
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
The ping pong video is fake, as for the other one he had a lot of skill
Watching the match trick is deceptive. I just watched ho he moved through his stance and generated movement. He knew what he was doing.

Compare that to the abominable Star Wars prequels, especially with the Sith. He was a martial artist. He moved through his stances with fluidity and even when airborne he always landed ready to go. The jedi looked like automatons plodding through Arhur Murray 101.
 
what do you think?
As a student and instructor of Ip Ching/Sam Kwok lineage Wing Chun since the mid nineties I can say it is fairly well known in the WC/CMA community that Jun Fan(Bruce Lee) only got 1/3 of the WC system from Grandmaster Yip Man, (actually trained by Wong Shun Leung, one of his students). Technique wise, he didn't get a complete system.

With that said, by all accounts his dedication to his own fitness was legendary even before his death, as was his drive to succeed. Most of what we get now is his charisma halo.
 
so....I bought the book.....Tao of Jeet Kune Do



Bruce Lee was said to have grown up where the fight was always too real
you could die learning to live

my old neighborhood wasn't quite that bad.....but the city tore it down to get rid of it

if the renderings of his book are truly his script....
he was indeed.....all that he seemed to be
That's the book that got me into martial arts to begin with. I still have my original copy I bought in 1989
 

Jedster

Flying through space
so....I bought the book.....Tao of Jeet Kune Do



Bruce Lee was said to have grown up where the fight was always too real
you could die learning to live

my old neighborhood wasn't quite that bad.....but the city tore it down to get rid of it

if the renderings of his book are truly his script....
he was indeed.....all that he seemed to be

Absolutely agree. I just read the book a few months ago. I particularly like his concise & precise ways of explanations. I would like to have had him as an instructor
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I am amazed at how many people are taken in by it. A yellow tracksuit on a slim Asian , not with the same build that Lee had, with grain video that avoids the face and an audio track and people are willing to believe anything.
That was so well made. I'm still impressed to this day watching it. Imagine if somebody ever could do that in real life. That would be the only person who would surpass Bruce Lee in skill and arguably fame.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
That was so well made. I'm still impressed to this day watching it. Imagine if somebody ever could do that in real life. That would be the only person who would surpass Bruce Lee in skill and arguably fame.

The action was not that hard to do. Simply have a person swinging a nunchaku around and the ball is added after the fact. I sincerely doubt if Lee could come close to replicating the commercial. I remember some of the bad special effects in his movies. I can't find an image right now but I still remember when he threw to manikins dressed up as students of a dojo in one of his movies. Movie magic tends to make people look better than they actually are.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Watching the match trick is deceptive. I just watched ho he moved through his stance and generated movement. He knew what he was doing.

Compare that to the abominable Star Wars prequels, especially with the Sith. He was a martial artist. He moved through his stances with fluidity and even when airborne he always landed ready to go. The jedi looked like automatons plodding through Arhur Murray 101.

I did not like any of the prequels to star wars, however Darth Maul in Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace was played by Ray Park who is a martial artist. Ray Park trained traditional Chinese Northern Shaolin Kung Fu then went to kickboxing, taekwondo and wushu as a kid. Later he trained in Malaysia. However the rest of the Sith....stiff. Ray Park was also Snake Eyes in the GI Joe Movies and Toad in X-Men.
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
I did not like any of the prequels to star wars, however Darth Maul in Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace was played by Ray Park who is a martial artist. Ray Park trained traditional Chinese Northern Shaolin Kung Fu then went to kickboxing, taekwondo and wushu as a kid. Later he trained in Malaysia. However the rest of the Sith....stiff. Ray Park was also Snake Eyes in the GI Joe Movies and Toad in X-Men.
He's the Sith I was referring to.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
Yes.

The most effective martial arts are beyond simply striking but grappling as well.

Just look at the Gracie family. Lee was incredibly fast but I don't think he would stand a chance against a mixed striking/grappling form.

Who cares.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes.

The most effective martial arts are beyond simply striking but grappling as well.

Just look at the Gracie family. Lee was incredibly fast but I don't think he would stand a chance against a mixed striking/grappling form.

Who cares.
He might still have some advantages. Since MMA is a sport there are some activities that are banned. For example, a very good defense against a takedown is a downward elbow strike to the head. These are illegal in MMA and they do not tend to defend against them.
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
Yes.

The most effective martial arts are beyond simply striking but grappling as well.

Just look at the Gracie family. Lee was incredibly fast but I don't think he would stand a chance against a mixed striking/grappling form.

Who cares.

Bruce Lee was taught grappling by Gene LeBell; even in Enter the Dragon he arm barred the guy at the start. He also learned small circle Ju Jitsu from Wally Jay.

I still think Dan Gable would beat Bruce Lee though
 
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