buddhist hell

[willy1590]

Well does buddhism ever believe that when humans die and there bad, they come back on earth(as this is suffering) instead of hell?

 

[Twilight Hue]

That is what hell is to me. It rises and falls same manner as nirvana. Something everyone has experienced. However, I think illuminated masters have dropped away the variation, and traverse the realms unimpeded.

 

[willy1590]

I think that hell is on earth like your veiws as well, we just need to try and be good on this earth and we can get to nirvana eventually!.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Well does buddhism ever believe that when humans die and there bad, they come back on earth(as this is suffering) instead of hell?

Not in general. Buddhism is usually straightforward and direct. Im not under the impression of any type of cosmic scorecard keeping tabs on whos naughty and nice. ;0)

Things just happen by way of cause and effect. Aka karma.

 

[willy1590]

do you believe in hell?

 

[Twilight Hue]

I think that hell is on earth like your veiws as well, we just need to try and be good on this earth and we can get to nirvana eventually!.

Well it's a nice way to start. Smiles and goodness makes a better place for everyone. :0)

 

[willy1590]

well do you believe buddhist hell is actually rebith on earth?

 

[Twilight Hue]

do you believe in hell?

Well there is the experience of hell.

I can attest there is pain and suffering of which I recognise and acknowledge as hell.

 

[willy1590]

Do you think the pain is back on earth?

 

[Twilight Hue]

well do you believe buddhist hell is actually rebith on earth?

Well this existence places us in hell realms that varies in intensity. . While I ascribe to rebirth, my view its something that is likely a random result stemming from proper conditions more than anything else.

 

[willy1590]

Do you think the hell realm is on earth or actually physical torture?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Do you think the pain is back on earth?

Pain imv is something involving body and mind. It can crop up anywhere if a form is subject to it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Do you think the hell realm is on earth or actually physical torture?

It's with whatever form that experiences and identifies as such.

 

[willy1590]

But is the hell realm on earth?

 

[Twilight Hue]

But is the hell realm on earth?

That would depend.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

so you woudnt feel the pain as if it were physical but more mental(is it just a metaphor for mental pain).?

Emotional pain is much more damaging and hurts more than physical

 

[crossfire]

In buddhism isn't the material world pretty much the hell needing to be escaped? Escaping Samsara to reach Nirvana?

Samsara is nibbana. Nibanna is beyond concepts. (Untraceablity)

Alagaddupama Sutta: The Water Snake Simile

"And when the devas, together with Indra, the Brahmas, & Pajapati, search for the monk whose mind is thus released, they cannot find that 'The consciousness of the one truly gone (tathagata) [11] is dependent on this.' Why is that? The one truly gone is untraceable even in the here & now. [12]
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Nibbana can be experienced in the here and now, in Samsara.

 

[Onkara]

But is the hell realm on earth?

In my opinion, yes definitely on earth whilst living. Why, because there is no where else to go, the realms exist simultaneously. Beings move from one realm to another. Just my view of Theravada.

 

[Onkara]

Samsara is nibbana. Nibanna is beyond concepts. (Untraceablity)

Alagaddupama Sutta: The Water Snake Simile

"And when the devas, together with Indra, the Brahmas, & Pajapati, search for the monk whose mind is thus released, they cannot find that 'The consciousness of the one truly gone (tathagata) [11] is dependent on this.' Why is that? The one truly gone is untraceable even in the here & now. [12]
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Nibbana can be experienced in the here and now, in Samsara.

Good post Crossfire. I think that is very significant.

 

[willy1590]

So is buddhist hell rebirth on earth?